nmc02 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I don't intend on sounding like a know it all, but in my opinion....these cold weather products are the BEST out there. Furthermore, I wasted lots of money in the past buying crap or products that I simply did not find to be the best. I recently talked to a friend on here and was discussing this topic. In my experience, you need to spend the money on gear that works and is durable. I have gear that is 10 plus years old and is like new after using it often Base layer (Next to skin): IT MUST BE MERINO WOOL. I like only two.....smartwool (smartwool.com) or Icebreaker (icebreaker.com) 200-250 gram. I prefer icebreaker because it is more comfortable against the skin for me. Mid layer: I use only one brand....Woolpower (woolpowerus.com). It has to be pretty cold for me to use a mid layer. The mid layer should be 400 gram or 600 gram. I seldom use 600 gram, as it adds bulk and it needs to be below 20 degrees. I use bottoms, tops, and sometimes a vest; depending on temps. This can be purchased here: www.winteroutfitters.com Outer layer: If you do not have a problem with synthetic fabrics....SITKA GEAR can't be beat!! When I gun hunt, normally wear the Incinerator bib/jacket. Pros: WARM, waterproof, durable, and comfortable (like laying in a down sleeping bag). Cons: Expensive, runs a little small, not super quiet. If you want natural fabrics....King of the Mountain Wool (kingofthemountain.com) is top notch! It is made to order. Look at the standmaster model. As for bow hunting, I prefer the Sitka Fanatic jacket/bib. It is quieter, but not waterproof. Sock: smart wool socks are great. Boots: I wear rubber boots to around 25 degrees with the Grabber M/L insole foot warmers (www.warmers.com). My feet rarely get cold above 20 degrees. IF colder than 20, I like the cabelas Inferno pac boots (cabelas.com) or the Baffin Icebear boot (www.baffin.com). I recently tried the BAMA sockkets, but my feet are too wide and most rubber boots aren't made wide. I think they will work well with someone with average foot width. They are designed to absorb sweat and seem like a great product. Hands: I seldom wear gloves and find a hand muff with hand warmers can't be beat! Some of the biggest variables are how far are you walking to your stand?????? If a long walk that will result in sweating.......DO NOT wear a jacket, hat, or have foot warmers in boot. Best bet is to put jacket, etc on at the base of tree. In conclusion, I AM ALL EARS and want to hear what you guys think or know from your experiences. Hopefully this will help some of you. All I can say is that I am NEVER cold when I use the above listed products. Look forward to hearing others advice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Boykin Runner, Cousin Brown, Pathman and 7 others 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonefreak Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, nmc02 said: I don't intend on sounding like a know it all, but in my opinion....these cold weather products are the BEST out there. Furthermore, I wasted lots of money in the past buying crap or products that I simply did not find to be the best. I recently talked to a friend on here and was discussing this topic. In my experience, you need to spend the money on gear that works and is durable. I have gear that is 10 plus years old and is like new after using it often Base layer (Next to skin): IT MUST BE MERINO WOOL. I like only two.....smartwool (smartwool.com) or Icebreaker (icebreaker.com) 200-250 gram. I prefer icebreaker because it is more comfortable against the skin for me. Mid layer: I use only one brand....Woolpower (woolpowerus.com). It has to be pretty cold for me to use a mid layer. The mid layer should be 400 gram or 600 gram. I seldom use 600 gram, as it adds bulk and it needs to be below 20 degrees. I use bottoms, tops, and sometimes a vest; depending on temps. This can be purchased here: www.winteroutfitters.com Outer layer: If you do not have a problem with synthetic fabrics....SITKA GEAR can't be beat!! When I gun hunt, normally wear the Incinerator bib/jacket. Pros: WARM, waterproof, durable, and comfortable (like laying in a down sleeping bag). Cons: Expensive, runs a little small, not super quiet. If you want natural fabrics....King of the Mountain Wool (kingofthemountain.com) is top notch! It is made to order. Look at the standmaster model. As for bow hunting, I prefer the Sitka Fanatic jacket/bib. It is quieter, but not waterproof. Sock: smart wool socks are great. Boots: I wear rubber boots to around 25 degrees with the Grabber M/L insole foot warmers (www.warmers.com). My feet rarely get cold above 20 degrees. IF colder than 20, I like the cabelas Inferno pac boots (cabelas.com) or the Baffin Icebear boot (www.baffin.com). I recently tried the BAMA sockkets, but my feet are too wide and most rubber boots aren't made wide. I think they will work well with someone with average foot width. They are designed to absorb sweat and seem like a great product. Hands: I seldom wear gloves and find a hand muff with hand warmers can't be beat! Some of the biggest variables are how far are you walking to your stand?????? If a long walk that will result in sweating.......DO NOT wear a jacket, hat, or have foot warmers in boot. Best bet is to put jacket, etc on at the base of tree. In conclusion, I AM ALL EARS and want to hear what you guys think or know from your experiences. Hopefully this will help some of you. All I can say is that I am NEVER cold when I use the above listed products. Look forward to hearing others advice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great info!! Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutandBucks Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Great info thank you!! AWM #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpr1921 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Raven Wear from Canada for stand hunting - read the reviews. It's no longer made but available from time to time on eBay and hunting sites. I purchased all of mine 2nd hand. Edited November 4, 2021 by tpr1921 not on the rug and nmc02 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric10162 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 40 minutes ago, nmc02 said: I don't intend on sounding like a know it all, but in my opinion....these cold weather products are the BEST out there. Furthermore, I wasted lots of money in the past buying crap or products that I simply did not find to be the best. I recently talked to a friend on here and was discussing this topic. In my experience, you need to spend the money on gear that works and is durable. I have gear that is 10 plus years old and is like new after using it often Base layer (Next to skin): IT MUST BE MERINO WOOL. I like only two.....smartwool (smartwool.com) or Icebreaker (icebreaker.com) 200-250 gram. I prefer icebreaker because it is more comfortable against the skin for me. Mid layer: I use only one brand....Woolpower (woolpowerus.com). It has to be pretty cold for me to use a mid layer. The mid layer should be 400 gram or 600 gram. I seldom use 600 gram, as it adds bulk and it needs to be below 20 degrees. I use bottoms, tops, and sometimes a vest; depending on temps. This can be purchased here: www.winteroutfitters.com Outer layer: If you do not have a problem with synthetic fabrics....SITKA GEAR can't be beat!! When I gun hunt, normally wear the Incinerator bib/jacket. Pros: WARM, waterproof, durable, and comfortable (like laying in a down sleeping bag). Cons: Expensive, runs a little small, not super quiet. If you want natural fabrics....King of the Mountain Wool (kingofthemountain.com) is top notch! It is made to order. Look at the standmaster model. As for bow hunting, I prefer the Sitka Fanatic jacket/bib. It is quieter, but not waterproof. Sock: smart wool socks are great. Boots: I wear rubber boots to around 25 degrees with the Grabber M/L insole foot warmers (www.warmers.com). My feet rarely get cold above 20 degrees. IF colder than 20, I like the cabelas Inferno pac boots (cabelas.com) or the Baffin Icebear boot (www.baffin.com). I recently tried the BAMA sockkets, but my feet are too wide and most rubber boots aren't made wide. I think they will work well with someone with average foot width. They are designed to absorb sweat and seem like a great product. Hands: I seldom wear gloves and find a hand muff with hand warmers can't be beat! Some of the biggest variables are how far are you walking to your stand?????? If a long walk that will result in sweating.......DO NOT wear a jacket, hat, or have foot warmers in boot. Best bet is to put jacket, etc on at the base of tree. In conclusion, I AM ALL EARS and want to hear what you guys think or know from your experiences. Hopefully this will help some of you. All I can say is that I am NEVER cold when I use the above listed products. Look forward to hearing others advice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like you I wear: First layer is always merino wool. Icebreaker or KUIU 2nd Layer is Cabelas Thermal Fleece or Sitka Heavyweight(carry in) 3rd Layer is a heavy cotton pull over sweatshirt(carry in if needed) MTO 50 Jacket & Pants or MTO 50 Coveralls Heater BodySuit(never used in NJ) Boots vary from Lacrosse Alpha Burlys to Saskatchewan Boots I wear gloves and a face covering from September to February while I'm in a treestand or blind. nmc02 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midwestxpress Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 When its cold I just grab my Heater Suit, I don't even mess around anymore. gobblergetter, electric10162, Buckrut11 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpowder Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 42 minutes ago, tpr1921 said: Raven Wear from Canada for stand hunting - read the reviews. It's no longer made but available from time to time on eBay and hunting sites. I purchased all of mine 2nd hand. This stuff was the best. I used to talk to sue a lot. My only regret was not buying more before they retired. tpr1921 and not on the rug 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer36 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Don't like stating specific brands but a few things are certain. No cotton material on your feet and body Keep your neck covered at all times. I wear a turtleneck shirt on winter hunts. Wear a "wind blocking" layer on windy days. No matter what you wear or how expensive it is, if you don't do these things, you can't stay warm. Edited November 4, 2021 by archer36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy381 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 X2 on the Ravin wear! If you can find it grab it try it you won't be disappointed. tpr1921 and not on the rug 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lphunsjr Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 My feet are ALWAYS cold, no matter what I do. The rest is great info and much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdep217 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lphunsjr said: My feet are ALWAYS cold, no matter what I do. The rest is great info and much appreciated Gonna sound wierd but try it. Buy a half size to big of 2000 gram thinsulate boots and only wear a pair of dress socks. Lphunsjr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmc02 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Lphunsjr said: My feet are ALWAYS cold, no matter what I do. The rest is great info and much appreciated Have you used the full foot insole warmers...........they are heavenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haskell_Hunter Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I wear as much natural material as I can. God invented wool so animals could keep warm in cold temps, and it works well for them. Wool does not absorb water and will keep you warm even if it is wet. I always dress in layers and bring extra gear with me if I know I am going out into the cold for an extended period. I agree with Merino wool as a base layer. I have socks, pants, long-sleeve shirt, and a head covering. It keeps the moisture off of you and is comfortable as all heck. Next layer is cotton. I know people frown on this, but cotton has its place if you manage your body temp and avoid sweating. Long-sleeve turtle-neck and jeans usually. You can easily change the shirt in the field to get moisture off of you. The layer over that used to be a Woolrich wool shirt until they became a woke company and no longer make wool shirts or honor their warranties. However, a good long-sleeved wool shirt over the cotton is a must. Outer later is again wool. I wear my Filson bibs and jacket. They are solid, quiet and warm. Wool makes absolutely no noise when you are walking, unlike many of the synthetic gear. The Filson stuff also doesn't have zippers, they have buttons instead. Buttons don't make noise in the field either. I find that a bib keeps you especially warm. It takes the warmth of your legs and torso and makes that heat available in that whole area. Regular pants and a jacket create two heat zones that don't exchange heat. Often times I'll find myself hunting with just the bibs and the wool shirt on with the jacket in my pack. For long sits I have a rabbit fur bomber hat that has never let my head get cold. It's outstanding, and hunter orange. If I am stalking I have a hunter orange hat with ear muffs if I need them. I use fingerless gloves but also have merino wool glove liners. The gloves have the mitten flip over and I use it on occasion. I have the Zippo hand warmer, which is epic. I highly recommend this. Burns all day long and keeps your hands warm. I have two sets of boots I wear. I use insulated rubber boots for stalks and have layers on underneath. Merino wool socks, cotton socks, and heavy wool socks. For sits I have giant moon boots that I found in the Cabelas discount cave. They were still expensive, but they are the warmest boots I've ever owned. They have a wool bootie that you put on and then put the boot on. As you can see, I am a big fan of wool because it's natural, it's nature tested-and-approved, and IMHO is one of the best insulators out there. electricstart and nmc02 2 Sapere aude. Audeamus. When you cannot measure, your knowledge is meager and unsatisfactory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lphunsjr Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, nmc02 said: Have you used the full foot insole warmers...........they are heavenly. Yes,,,only thing that makes it bearable on really cold days. Considering Mickey Boots nmc02 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobblergetter Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Wear what ever you want. Then put on a heater body suit. Toasty warm MGHunter66, Slayer1962 and electricstart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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