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22 minutes ago, maximus66 said:

Very nice Jack...good coaching Dan


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I am all tuned up for the W&W trip now!     Actually - NOT.  Watching Dan and Scott catch them on bucktails while I had to resort to bait because I just couldn't get the feel with that strong current with no wind at all to speak of, reminded me I have a long way to go before I am a flukemaster…  I don't regret dropping that 12" strip of shad down there at the right time though!

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I am all tuned up for the W&W trip now!     Actually - NOT.  Watching Dan and Scott catch them on bucktails while I had to resort to bait because I just couldn't get the feel with that strong current with no wind at all to speak of, reminded me I have a long way to go before I am a flukemaster…  I don't regret dropping that 12" strip of shad down there at the right time though!

Jack those guys have been at it a long time, keep at with folks like that, watch their every move and you will be surprised how “ in tune” you’ll get.


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41 minutes ago, maximus66 said:


Jack those guys have been at it a long time, keep at with folks like that, watch their every move and you will be surprised how “ in tune” you’ll get.


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As easy as that is, many guys have a tough time getting it.. Bucktailing is all about swimming the jig to entice strikes.

Too many guys that get frustrated THINK they are doing the same thing but most times are just dragging the bucktail, hence why many catch only on the teaser.

I catch very few fish on the teaser, almost 95% on the bucktail.

after guys catch a few the will get it and understand the difference in the bite.

It takes work to do it all day, but the rewards are great 

 

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As easy as that is, many guys have a tough time getting it.. Bucktailing is all about swimming the jig to entice strikes.
Too many guys that get frustrated THINK they are doing the same thing but most times are just dragging the bucktail, hence why many catch only on the teaser.
I catch very few fish on the teaser, almost 95% on the bucktail.
after guys catch a few the will get it and understand the difference in the bite.
It takes work to do it all day, but the rewards are great 
 
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Funny you say about swimming the jig, an old timer from the fur factory my grandfather worked at used to take me out all the time. I remember him grabbing my rod handle the first time i started jigging a bucktail and said” son, fish don’t hop around on the bottom they swim... get it” LOL


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14 hours ago, maximus66 said:


Funny you say about swimming the jig, an old timer from the fur factory my grandfather worked at used to take me out all the time. I remember him grabbing my rod handle the first time i started jigging a bucktail and said” son, fish don’t hop around on the bottom they swim... get it” LOL


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That's the key. It's making it appear like a feeding bait fish. Followed by quick darting like it's fleeing. Draws impulse strikes. After they hit if they miss it. Super erratic flight brings crushing strikes 

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18 hours ago, maximus66 said:


Funny you say about swimming the jig, an old timer from the fur factory my grandfather worked at used to take me out all the time. I remember him grabbing my rod handle the first time i started jigging a bucktail and said” son, fish don’t hop around on the bottom they swim... get it” LOL


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How do you "swim" the bait compared to jigging the bait?

I saw on Fish Mongers Facebook page they caught a 12 LBer the other day, and a 9 LBer a few days before.

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How do you "swim" the bait compared to jigging the bait?
I saw on Fish Mongers Facebook page they caught a 12 LBer the other day, and a 9 LBer a few days before.

See hammers post above, kinda hard to explain exactly but imagine your jig hovering inches from the bottom and subtle up and down motion(only inches that is) with sudden pulses. Not pick and drop. Best way to learn is in super clear water where you can watch the motion. When you get it right you’ll think to yourself “ i would eat that” LOL


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3 hours ago, DBuck said:

How do you "swim" the bait compared to jigging the bait?

I saw on Fish Mongers Facebook page they caught a 12 LBer the other day, and a 9 LBer a few days before.

for sure some nice fish being caught. Jerry is one of if not the best in the business.

works hard and has good fisherman on his boat daily , that work hard at catching big fluke.

 

swimming the bait is just that , swimming in a natural motion, dropping back at different times to make the bait look real.

Bait that just falls like a stone IMO doesn't get half as many bites.

even when I drop back a jig I keep good contact with it trying to get it to flutter down . not nose dive.

It keeps the hook in the right position for a hook set as well as allow you to feel even the slightest pick up.

 

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If you can’t swim a bucktail stay the hell out of the sticky shit! It’ll consume your inner being....lol

some of my most memorable strikes came after an entire day of losing bucktail/teaser combos, I got frustrated  and only fished a bucktail. BAMMMM sometimes if you give a fluke too many choices you’ll confuse the poor bastards. One 

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Glad all the methods of Catching For the Northern Guys Fluke & Southern Guys Flounder has been discussed. IMO there is no way to predict what a fish will bite on any particular day.  The Methods over the Years have all changed but the Fish remains the Same. As far a Fluke Catching goes my best Catches have been in some unlikely conditions and Areas. From the Surf to Offshore - Rocky to Smooth bottoms, Low High Middle Moving Still, Power Drifting to Ruff Fast drifting, Cloudy Sunny Raining.  Bait - Jigs - Combos,  BIG BAITS of 10" 2" wide Belly or Squid- Single Killey to Spearing Squid combo- Snapper Blues- Mullet-Bergals - Calico crabs. Hopkins.                             In the end, it is Opportunity, Luck, If your bait passes a Hungry Fish it will take anything. Never heard of one saying gee that doesn't look right I can see the Hook Or Line  I will wait for a better-looking bait. It is garbing it before the next Guy.  And if all this does not Float your boat Go to Bass Pro - Cabelas or any local bait shop they have Millions of lure to catch Fisherman _ Fish is another Story.  In ending That is one hell of a Fluke for today's standards.   Oh and ever see when guys are lined up either at the Rails on Head boat of Shore Line using the same bait there are always those who just don't catch. While a few are Slaughtering them.  

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6 hours ago, 1957Buck said:

Glad all the methods of Catching For the Northern Guys Fluke & Southern Guys Flounder has been discussed. IMO there is no way to predict what a fish will bite on any particular day.  The Methods over the Years have all changed but the Fish remains the Same. As far a Fluke Catching goes my best Catches have been in some unlikely conditions and Areas. From the Surf to Offshore - Rocky to Smooth bottoms, Low High Middle Moving Still, Power Drifting to Ruff Fast drifting, Cloudy Sunny Raining.  Bait - Jigs - Combos,  BIG BAITS of 10" 2" wide Belly or Squid- Single Killey to Spearing Squid combo- Snapper Blues- Mullet-Bergals - Calico crabs. Hopkins.                             In the end, it is Opportunity, Luck, If your bait passes a Hungry Fish it will take anything. Never heard of one saying gee that doesn't look right I can see the Hook Or Line  I will wait for a better-looking bait. It is garbing it before the next Guy.  And if all this does not Float your boat Go to Bass Pro - Cabelas or any local bait shop they have Millions of lure to catch Fisherman _ Fish is another Story.  In ending That is one hell of a Fluke for today's standards.   Oh and ever see when guys are lined up either at the Rails on Head boat of Shore Line using the same bait there are always those who just don't catch. While a few are Slaughtering them.  

That's the difference between a bait fisherman and a bucktailer.

Bait fisherman catch fluke when the fish wants to eat their given bait.

Bucktail fisherman are able to get fish to eat even when they don't want to .

Drawing impulse strikes that bait just doesn't get.

 

and as far as what they want to eat, knowing which body of fish your on and what the have been feeding on goes a long ways in the choice of what style gulp and bucktail that will work most effectively .

 

There is a reason 10% of the fisherman catch most of the fish while others just stand at the rail and watch 

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Good point Dan, i fish the flats a lot early on and when i am in any grass my shrimp flies will outfish live bait hands down. My fishing partner was in disbelief watching me constantly hook up while his host of killies spearing and fluke belly were doing mediocre. What really gets me is the guys that pick up and head in 20 minites before a tide change


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 IMO there is no way to predict what a fish will bite on any particular day. 

 I can... Bucktail and Gulp, all you do is change colors until you find the right combo and then stick with it

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5 hours ago, hammer4reel said:

 

 

There is a reason 10% of the fisherman catch most of the fish while others just stand at the rail and watch 

 

Truer words than one would think.   They also could describe most Deer Hunters.   

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I did well bait fishing on my first fluke trip in the bay. My second fluke trip after learning what not to do while jigging. Jigs tipped with spearing. Only 5 of about 20 or so that I caught were keepers, but I'd be hard pressed to have another day like this.  8lb and 11.5lb had me eating good for awhile. Experience is your best teacher as long as you are with an experienced teacher.

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17 minutes ago, allmann said:

looks like it was a great day X7. was that recent?

No, this was in 2004. I should have mentioned that. I've only been back fluke fishing a dozen times or so since with nowhere near the success on the size of fish. I did drop a couple good ones. I'm blaming the net man....

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Nice catch Jack , Congrats !!!! Great Job Dan , nice catch . 

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