hostak126 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Regulate ammunition sales. ( I can easily cross the Delaware and buy ammo ) Require firearm dealers to sell microstamping-enabled firearms. ( how the hell is this supposed to do anything?? ) Prohibit certain .50 caliber rifles. ( Does this affect muzzleloaders? ) Require gun owners who move from out of state to register their firearms and obtain a new firearm purchaser identification card. ( Is someone from out of state really going to register? I wouldn't ) Mandate training to obtain that card, which must be renewed every 10 years. ( This will do nothing to prevent gun crime ) And give the attorney general power to bring legal action against gun manufacturers and retailers. ( Most gun crime firearms are brought in from out of state and are illegal! ) The $20 million dollar question is - What can we The People do to fight this? Not trusting the government doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist, it makes you a history buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhunt Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 I had heard from someone else that the Supreme Court ruled the extended magazine ban in NJ was illegal. Yes? No? "The Nation Which Forgets Its Defenders, Will Itself Be Forgotten". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD48 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, hostak126 said: Regulate ammunition sales. ( I can easily cross the Delaware and buy ammo ) Require firearm dealers to sell microstamping-enabled firearms. ( how the hell is this supposed to do anything?? ) Prohibit certain .50 caliber rifles. ( Does this affect muzzleloaders? ) Require gun owners who move from out of state to register their firearms and obtain a new firearm purchaser identification card. ( Is someone from out of state really going to register? I wouldn't ) Mandate training to obtain that card, which must be renewed every 10 years. ( This will do nothing to prevent gun crime ) And give the attorney general power to bring legal action against gun manufacturers and retailers. ( Most gun crime firearms are brought in from out of state and are illegal! ) The $20 million dollar question is - What can we The People do to fight this? Did they mention what they will do to the criminals? or is that us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostak126 Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tarhunt said: I had heard from someone else that the Supreme Court ruled the extended magazine ban in NJ was illegal. Yes? No? The scotus granted Writ of Certiorari to ANJRPC v. Grewal and sent it back to the 3rd circuit telling them to retry the case and apply the history and traditions Justice Thomas pointed out in NYPRA v. Bruen opinion. Basically they said it was illegal Not trusting the government doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist, it makes you a history buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostak126 Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, JD48 said: Did they mention what they will do to the criminals? or is that us? The Democrat agenda is to disarm the people BEAR, tcook8296, mightyhunter and 1 other 1 3 Not trusting the government doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist, it makes you a history buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD48 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, hostak126 said: The Democrat agenda is to disarm the people Agree, sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJust22s Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 7 hours ago, JD48 said: Did they mention what they will do to the criminals? or is that us? All convicted criminals get free health care, an iPhone and a 20% discount on ammo. Boykin Runner, thefirstndsecond, bucky and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjtfd Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 You forgot Met’s tickets. Or was that only criminals who reside in NY? 😂😂 thefirstndsecond 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazzgolf Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 10 hours ago, hostak126 said: Mandate training to obtain that card, which must be renewed every 10 years. ( This will do nothing to prevent gun crime ) I thought it was every 4 years. Where did you read it was 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ0808 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, mazzgolf said: I thought it was every 4 years. Where did you read it was 10? Looks like in the final bill they amended it to expire after 10 years and for new ones (not sure about replacements) you have to have completed training within past 4 years unless exempt. https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bill-search/2022/A4370/bill-text?f=A4500&n=4370_R1 Also new FPIC will have fingerprint and your photo. Edited July 1, 2022 by DJ0808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazzgolf Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 my 20+ year old card has my right-thumb fingerprint on it already. Not sure the purpose of it - the state expect a dealer to check your prints, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ0808 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Mine has right index print on it. Guess they just want any fingerprint on it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMenRule Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 This is what NJ residents voted for and will get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ0808 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 At least if you're going to hit me with all these permits, fees, and regulations the process should be streamlined and efficient. Still waiting on a NICS for a pistol that was submitted Monday afternoon.... For reference my last purchase (a shotgun) in DE took 17 minutes for NICS on a busy weekend!!! mazzgolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Should be no ID cards, just a data base of prohibited people. If you’re not in the system as a criminal, mentally ill or otherwise prohibited you can buy. Show your drivers license, they check for your name in the data base and if negative they sell. This way law abiding citizens are unencumbered and able to easily purchase firearms. Also gets rid of all the bureaucracy of fingerprinting, ID cards, renewals etc. etc. TDietz, Dave B., rackemup and 4 others 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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