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#21 Male ONLINE   dlist777

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Posted 04/20/17 - 08:12 AM

 

 

But - where else can you truly live and get that kind of variety as an outdoorsman? Our deer hunting is not on par with Ohio, Iowa, Kansas, etc.  But we have better bear hunting. We have better fishing, heck they can't fluke fish out there.  Only thing we are really missing are speed goats, elk, moose, 'bou and mule deer.

 

I agree.  I'm a PA resident and hunt in NJ.  The other good thing is we have other states close by.  NJ, PA, NY, and MD are all just a car ride away.  You can take a couple hour car ride and get to use different weapons at different times and hunt different types of areas.  You can hunt sparse big woods, suburban lots, or farm country.  I love it.  


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#22 Male OFFLINE   bigfish525

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Posted 04/20/17 - 08:26 AM

I don't care where you live, life is what you make of it.NJ good and bad. I hunt ,fish, live by my family and friends so my life is good. The rest is just not worth bitching about.
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#23 Male OFFLINE   1957Buck

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Posted 04/20/17 - 08:42 AM

Now I know where all the road rage is coming from. with all the disgruntled residents not living the good life in NJ Who feel trapped in their Jobs, The grass is always greener till you live in someone else's shoes. 3rd generation NJ 7th generation North America. Visited some 30 States. been 3/4 the way around the World. Worked hard for what I have.

Nj was and is still run by Crooks And the Cities and towns the Crooks were run out of are the Failures. It started in Newark and spread like a disease. Nj is not perfect but a hell of a lot better than many other choices.   

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#24 Male ONLINE   Rusty

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Posted 04/20/17 - 10:03 AM

NJ has treated me pretty well, I can't complain.  

 

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#25 Male OFFLINE   4hunting

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Posted 04/20/17 - 10:10 AM

Seems like we just concluded a long deer season, many nice deer were shot, stories shared on here.  We had our first October bear hunts, and got to follow along with those that ran baits for months in advance, and got to share in their success...  Winter gave us a late blast, but it didn't stop the trout opener, many are out and enjoying it in Jersey, PA and NY. The shad run came back in full force - many members are out and about enjoying the purple-silver fighters. Turkey is about to open - there will be many longbeard adventures posted here. I see huge stripers posted, that's only going to get better, followed by blues, fluke, seabass sharks and tuna, then stripers all over again, then blackfish. Didn't even mention the rest of the freshwater menu, like catfish, largemouth, smallmouth, walleye, pike, musky, crappie, etc. Bowfishing anyone - we got it.   Many will be scouting whitetails for the fall opener, many already putting out minerals and working food plots.

 

I know we are not Alaska, or Montana, Wyoming, etc... I know we pay horrendous taxes and risk our lives enduring grueling commutes. I know we are surrounded by a-holes in just about everything we do...

 

But - where else can you truly live and get that kind of variety as an outdoorsman? Our deer hunting is not on par with Ohio, Iowa, Kansas, etc.  But we have better bear hunting. We have better fishing, heck they can't fluke fish out there.  Only thing we are really missing are speed goats, elk, moose, 'bou and mule deer.

WELL SAID!!


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#26 Male OFFLINE   Zipper

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Posted 04/20/17 - 10:14 AM

I don't think Jack was claiming that we live in the Garden of Eden. His point was that we can be thankful for the many outstanding opportunities for outdoor recreation we have here. As I travel across the country, people are stunned at the beautiful landscape and seascapes we have in Nj. Most think it's all smokestacks and pavement. When I explain the opportunity for deer hunting here, their minds are blown. Bottom line is no place is perfect, but we have many good things in Nj. And if you're from NJ, you can complain, if not "Forget About It"!

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#27 Male OFFLINE   mazzgolf

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Posted 04/20/17 - 11:38 AM

I'm glad I'm not the only one to think this.

 

Look - I'm the first to say I hate NJ :laughing: .... NJ still has crap areas (I'm a very short car ride to Camden - and when I get jury duty, I have to look forward to making that trip. :vomit: ) Property taxes are ridiculous. Hunting licenses and permits are expensive. State is run by crooks and gun-hating liberals.

 

But in the past week I scouted a new public place looking for turkey - last Saturday and last night. It's deep in the woods yet only a short drive away. I spotted 4 hen turkeys. I bumped a half dozen deer. I brought my fishing rod with me because I knew there was some fishing holes in here that I wanted to scope out - and I caught a pickerel within 5 minutes. Watched two beavers swimming and making all kinds of racket by splashing with their tails (I guess they didn't want me around). Watched some geese swimming about 200 yards away and saw a mallard land 100 yards from me - hmmm, I think I just found an awesome waterfowl spot! I heard two barred owls calling to each other. I thought to myself, "in this one area, there's waterfowl, turkey, deer... and if I was a trapper, beaver." I didn't see any squirrel, but they have to be in here too - perfect environment for them. All this with lots more surrounding woods that I haven't even walked through yet - so enough space to easily get away from other people especially in the mornings during the week (which is when I normally get out).

 

And that's just one spot. My "normal" spots are closer to me and have just as much variety of wildlife - including fox and coyote as well as plenty of squirrel (and crow! don't forget that).

 

Take a slightly longer drive and get to the beach for some salt water fishing or for the annual crabbing trip in the bay (and while crabbing I also like to wet a line to fish for some striper - not keepers, but good fighting size nonetheless). Not to mention if you go the other way you can hit the river.

 

So all within less than an hours drive (most within 15 to 30 minutes of me) I can hit the woods, ocean, river, or bay for turkey, deer, geese, duck, squirrel, fox, coyote, crow, fresh water and salt water fishing, crabbing. I honestly don't have time to do it all (I also like to go pheasant hunting with friends, too, at a semi-wild preserve that is 40 minutes away).

 

Of course this isn't the Garden of Eden (you need something to look forward to when you get to heaven :lol:) and I'm sure there are parts of the country that are as good or better. We don't have big deer like the midwest. We don't have large bass like Florida. But overall, the hunting and fishing and crabbing in this state is varied and (almost as important) close by! What good is it if you have to drive 1 or 2 hours to go fishing or hunting? I like hopping in the car and having the option of driving just 15 minutes and being able to fish or hunt - and most of my spots are 30 minutes or less of a drive.

 

When I do move out of this state, before I decide to go somewhere I'm first going to compare its hunting and fishing opportunities to the opportunities we have here because I think overall we do have it pretty good in that department (I just pray where ever that is that it is acceptable to the wife :praying:).


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#28 OFFLINE   sussexcohunter

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Posted 04/20/17 - 11:52 AM

i feel like we pay a lot for stamps, permits and the license to be so blessed. i cringe every year when buying the all around license cause it seems its a lot of $$ just to get to buy the permits to do the stuff you really want to do. 



#29 Male OFFLINE   JHbowhunter

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Posted 04/20/17 - 07:53 PM

The only people who think NJ is even remotely a great place to live are... A) unfortunate enough to have never lived anywhere else or B) is a liberal or C) is a criminal knowing his pray is usually, by law, un-armed..or D) a law enforcement officer who loves all the action because of C.,.. and E) are lawyers who profit big time off of B,C,D..

 

My travels tell me there is no better Salt Water fishing than the Gulf Of Mexico, .. There is good hunting and fresh water fishing in almost every state.. How many times does anyone go to see a Broadway play?.. With the money I save on taxes alone I could go visit NYC 4 or 5 times a year to see a play. Not that I or many of you ever go see a play that often.. Food?... I'll give you that one.. That's about the only thing I miss.. When it comes to good eats, Va Beach Va is nothing more than a franchise city as is a lot of this country these days... It's horrible.. But I like home cooked meals anyway soooo...

 

I know its hard to uproot and leave  the life you've built since like forever.. I get it.. But just because its hard to just drop everything and move to a free country doesn't mean you have to lie to yourselves about how great things are.. Doing so may make you actually believe that nonsense and once you believe it, you may inadvertently ruin somebody elses life by convincing them NJ is not a bad place to grow some roots...

 

And on a final note.. While some of you are busy prancing around in la la land seemingly oblivious to the carnage around you, there are even more storm clouds brewing on the horizon.. Soon you will no longer be under Gov. Christies Protection.. Soon you may find yourselves Governed by a Feinstein or Nancy Pelosi or  Schumer Type Governor and have bestowed upon you all the privileges that go with it...

 

Good luck with that... :cupcoffee:

 

so you are saying, we are not "blessed"?



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Posted 04/21/17 - 04:12 AM

Axiom, how many times does someone go see a Broadway Play? You're absolutely right on that one. I am more a fan of the Metropolitan Opera House. Pardon me, could you please pass me the Grey Poupon?
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Posted 04/21/17 - 04:21 AM

Axiom, how many times does someone go see a Broadway Play? You're absolutely right on that one. I am more a fan of the Metropolitan Opera House. Pardon me, could you please pass me the Grey Poupon?

 

Checkout the prices at this opera house they are insane tax included lol

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Posted 04/21/17 - 07:32 AM

Well, to answer Jack's question.......Almost 12 years ago I was involved in a near fatal head on crash. Prognosis was poor/grim for any type of recovery. 2 weeks in a medically induced coma. My youngest of 3 kids was just born 2 months prior to the crash. Made it out of my coma, hospital bed, wheelchair, crutches, then to a cane, to eventually walking on my own to being back to work without any issues.

 

Each and every time I am able to share just 1 second in the woods with my family and friends I feel blessed. Blessed for the opportunity to not only be HERE, but to be able to once again share with my kids everything that I loved since I was a child. To watch the excitement in my children's eyes when they took their 1st bird, fish, or deer has been priceless.

 

So......Blessed??  Absolutely!


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#33 Male OFFLINE   1957Buck

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Posted 04/21/17 - 08:18 AM

i feel like we pay a lot for stamps, permits and the license to be so blessed. i cringe every year when buying the all around license cause it seems its a lot of $$ just to get to buy the permits to do the stuff you really want to do. 

 

In all due respect do you have any interests outside of Hunting and fishing? That you get the same benefits and it is free.  I think not. 

 Divide the cost over the time enjoyed afield.    ;)



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Posted 04/21/17 - 08:29 AM

In all due respect do you have any interests outside of Hunting and fishing? That you get the same benefits and it is free.  I think not. 

 Divide the cost over the time enjoyed afield.    ;)

 

Well yes but we are milked to death in this state and that's a fact. It isn't just the fees for hunting and fishing, which BTW are very high compering to PA for example, but it is the accumulative effect of paying and paying and paying. From property taxes, to pointless annual registration of your cars, boats and trailers, to sales tax, fees for just improving your property, and even exit tax if you dare to move out.
Maybe this is not a place to talk about this since this is a very positive thread about diversity of wildlife we get to enjoy in this state but the sad reality is most of us will be eventually forced to move out.  


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Posted 04/21/17 - 09:28 AM

I've told may people to leave if they don't like it here.  I can't stand when people complain about where they live.  Just leave if you don't like it.

 

Raritan Bay is one of the best places to fish anywhere, and I'v been all over.

If you can't shoot a deer here you should find something else to do.

 

Agree with Jack.


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Posted 04/21/17 - 10:31 AM

Hunting and fishing are the cheapest hobbies bar none. If you think you spend a lot of money on stamps and permits, think about your cell phone and cable bill for a while.
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Posted 04/21/17 - 10:58 AM

Hunting and fishing are the cheapest hobbies bar none. If you think you spend a lot of money on stamps and permits, think about your cell phone and cable bill for a while.

 

 

Well, if you consider watching TV and talking ion your cell a hobby then you have a point.

 

You really believe that? How about bird watching :-) I think hunting and fishing is one of the most expensive hobbies when it comes to having to pay a fee to participate because most hobbies require no permits, stamps ETC


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Posted 04/21/17 - 11:39 AM

Just remember, some of our license fees go to paying for acquiring and keeping our public WMAs. Just be glad we aren't Oregon who expect some of their public lands to make a profit to help pay to run parts of the government... and when they fail to do that, they look to sell it


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Posted 04/21/17 - 12:27 PM

It's hard to believe that I am off the coast of NJ when my brother in law takes me offshore. I can't wait to retire and move to Florida, but I will have a residence up here to enjoy much better hunting than down there. Like many have said, we complain a lot but we do have a lot to be thankful for.


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Posted 04/21/17 - 02:21 PM

I've told may people to leave if they don't like it here.  I can't stand when people complain about where they live.  Just leave if you don't like it.

 

 

Unfortunately it's not that simple for some of us. I have an "anchor parent", she's too old to just uproot and take her away from the only area she's ever lived in. And I'm not going to leave her at this point, so I'm basically stuck here for awhile longer.

 

I agree with what JH and others have stated about the diversity available, and some of it is downright awesome.

 

I try to avoid cities, so there's no appeal there. Not a big fan of what the coast and offshore have to offer.

 

 A big part for most of us is family and friends. Those of us that can share the outdoors, and everyday life, with good friends and family, makes it easier to stay and be content here. Myself, 90% of my family and friends don't live in NJ anymore, so, when I'm able, I will pay my exit tax and go.


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