ratherbhunting Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, Lunatic said: If wildlife, including coyotes and foxes causes damage to your property or livestock you can hunt them all year long by any legal means. I have hunted foxes mid summer with a note from the farmer, designated me as his agent, after foxes killed few of his chickens. So if coyotes killed sheep on the farm, have at it any time of the year. Under Wildlife Damage Control it states that .......".fox and coyote may control these animals by lawful procedures at any time subject to state law"..... Does this mean you can set snares to "control" them when trapping season is not currently going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, ratherbhunting said: Under Wildlife Damage Control it states that .......".fox and coyote may control these animals by lawful procedures at any time subject to state law"..... Does this mean you can set snares to "control" them when trapping season is not currently going on? If snares for fox or coyotes are legal in NJ then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonefreak Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 3:12 PM, bushden said: I personally think the state should impose a bounty on Coyotes and there should be be a 24/7, 365 day a year season. They are taking a big bite out of our other game species including turkey, pheasant & deer and domestic sheep. I have over the past several years have had them kill sheep on the farm I hunt. If you shoot a deer where I hunt and do not recover it in the 1st couple hours you could bet it will be all tore up by coyotes. Predator losses In 2014, it was estimated that 61,712 adult sheep and 132,683 lambs were killed by predators in the United States (USDA, 2015), costing farmers and ranchers almost $32.6 million. In 2014, predation accounted for 28.1 percent of sheep losses and 36.4 percent of lamb losses. Every year I buy my WV deer hunting license I donate $2 towards their DNRs coyote management fund....not sure how it operates....maybe they pay trappers to target yotes....I would do the same for NJ if they had such a thing jumpthestring and bushden 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushden Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Bonefreak said: Every year I buy my WV deer hunting license I donate $2 towards their DNRs coyote management fund....not sure how it operates....maybe they pay trappers to target yotes....I would do the same for NJ if they had such a thing ME TO Bonefreak 1 HONOR THE FALLENhttps://thefallen.militarytimes.com/ Over the years the US has sent many of its fine young men & women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return, is enough to bury those that did not return. COLIN POWELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushden Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 5 hours ago, ratherbhunting said: Under Wildlife Damage Control it states that .......".fox and coyote may control these animals by lawful procedures at any time subject to state law"..... Does this mean you can set snares to "control" them when trapping season is not currently going on? These regulations are to vaguely written making them open for interpretation which is never good. HONOR THE FALLENhttps://thefallen.militarytimes.com/ Over the years the US has sent many of its fine young men & women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return, is enough to bury those that did not return. COLIN POWELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickmarch Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 This the the regulation... https://casetext.com/regulation/new-jersey-administrative-code/title-7-environmental-protection/chapter-25-division-of-fish-and-wildlife-rules/subchapter-5-2017-2018-game-code/section-725-521-squirrel-sciurus-spp-raccoon-procyon-lotor-opossum-didelphis-virginianus-skunk-mephitis-mephitis-weasel-mustela-spp-woodchuck-marmota-monax-coyote-canis-latrans-gray-fox-urocyon-cinereoargenteus-and-red-fox-vulpes-vulpes-damage These are the Statutes cited in the regulation... https://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2019/title-23/section-23-4-9/ https://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2019/title-23/section-23-4-1/ Kind of useless regulation that directs you to laws that say you can't do what the regulation says you can do. bushden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTrapper Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Trappers could knock the hell out of them if they gave us our tools back. Namely the foot hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushden Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, NJTrapper said: Trappers could knock the hell out of them if they gave us our tools back. Namely the foot hold. Your right but that will never happen, the animal atavists would rally hard on it if we tried. Edited December 21, 2020 by bushden spelling HONOR THE FALLENhttps://thefallen.militarytimes.com/ Over the years the US has sent many of its fine young men & women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return, is enough to bury those that did not return. COLIN POWELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTrapper Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, bushden said: Your right but that will never happen, the animal atavists would rally hard on it if we tried. You are also right. But it was not anties so much as it was our fellow sportsman also. Snares are a great tool, but it is like taking the hammer away from the carpenter. You just can't do an efficient job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucndoe Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, NJTrapper said: Trappers could knock the hell out of them if they gave us our tools back. Namely the foot hold. They ain't as easy to catch as you think. Footies or not. Footies don't make a trapper any better. Edited December 21, 2020 by Bucndoe There is nothing more intolerant than a liberal preaching tolerance God gives the toughest battles to his strongest soldiers "Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and character. But if you must be without one, be without the strategy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTrapper Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Bucndoe said: They ain't as easy to catch as you think. Footies or not. Footies don't make a trapper any better. Neither does a snare. But it's just another way to hobble us from doing our job. bushden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucndoe Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, NJTrapper said: Neither does a snare. But it's just another way to hobble us from doing our job. Nah, no hobbling here. Lighter to carry, quicker to set, less crap to carry. And I lay steel for fur also. Adapt, adjust, and overcome There is nothing more intolerant than a liberal preaching tolerance God gives the toughest battles to his strongest soldiers "Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and character. But if you must be without one, be without the strategy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushden Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, Bucndoe said: Nah, no hobbling here. Lighter to carry, quicker to set, less crap to carry. And I lay steel for fur also. Adapt, adjust, and overcome Any way you can get them is good. HONOR THE FALLENhttps://thefallen.militarytimes.com/ Over the years the US has sent many of its fine young men & women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return, is enough to bury those that did not return. COLIN POWELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTrapper Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Not saying snares don't work, or are not easier to use, just saying our tools have been taken away making it harder to get things under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushden Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, NJTrapper said: Not saying snares don't work, or are not easier to use, just saying our tools have been taken away making it harder to get things under control. We need more trappers but with the price of furs you guys are harder and harder to find. HONOR THE FALLENhttps://thefallen.militarytimes.com/ Over the years the US has sent many of its fine young men & women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return, is enough to bury those that did not return. COLIN POWELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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