How many is enough?

[Lunatic]

7 minutes ago, Gobblengrunt said:

Given what i said above i do believe any zone should be limited to one bird a week.  The bird a day limit is clearly to grab more money out of our pockets.  I never seen this state “manage” any population of animals for quality

You can buy more than one tag per zone/week? how? I guess over the counter if there is any left form lottery? 

[Nomad]

4 minutes ago, Lunatic said:

You can buy more than one tag per zone/week? how? I guess over the counter if there is any left form lottery? 

You can buy another permit and shoot a turkey every day in the same zone.  A lot of zones are not sold out.

[nickmarch]

There are 27,275 permits made available with an estimated flock of 23,000 birds.

About half of the available permits are sold.

Spring and fall seasons combined about 3,000 birds are taken.  

You should try to bag as many birds as you have permits.  

[Lunatic]

1 minute ago, nickmarch said:

There are 27,275 permits made available with an estimated flock of 23,000 birds.

About half of the available permits are sold.

Spring and fall seasons combined about 3,000 birds are taken.  

You should try to bag as many birds as you have permits.  

It does not look like we take too many birds so have fun out there and hunt!

[nickmarch]

3 minutes ago, Lunatic said:

It does not look like we take too many birds so have fun out there and hunt!

The State needs to spend more or at least some of our money on habitat improvement, controled burns and stuff, instead of using our license and permit money on tunnels under roads for turtles, offshore wind farm studies and numerous other DEP non hunting related things. 

[Fred Flintstone]

Good Thread here started by Lunsonlvs!

  

[CJ3a]

I shot one a few years ago and that’s enough for me 

[Bucksnbows]

3 hours ago, nickmarch said:

The State needs to spend more or at least some of our money on habitat improvement, controled burns and stuff, instead of using our license and permit money on tunnels under roads for turtles, offshore wind farm studies and numerous other DEP non hunting related things. 

You seem to continue to struggle to understand how the Division is funded. If you think they live off license and permit sales, you’re not even remotely close. License sales allow the state to access federal grant funds, and those are the funds they use for non game issues such as tunnels under roads or offshore wind farm studies. They didn’t spend a penny of your license fees on those things. 

[Lunatic]

6 minutes ago, Bucksnbows said:

You seem to continue to struggle to understand how the Division is funded. If you think they live off license and permit sales, you’re not even remotely close. License sales allow the state to access federal grant funds, and those are the funds they use for non game issues such as tunnels under roads or offshore wind farm studies. They didn’t spend a penny of your license fees on those things. 

Ok but we all wish they invested the money, we the hunters generate from federal grants, in something we can benefit from instead of wasting it on things like wind farms and tunnels.  

[nickmarch]

3 hours ago, Bucksnbows said:

You seem to continue to struggle to understand how the Division is funded. If you think they live off license and permit sales, you’re not even remotely close. License sales allow the state to access federal grant funds, and those are the funds they use for non game issues such as tunnels under roads or offshore wind farm studies. They didn’t spend a penny of your license fees on those things. 

You need to read the FW annual financial reports they say differently. 

This report contains the many accomplishments of an experienced and dedicated staff. These accomplishments are primarily funded by the license fees of hunters, anglers and commercial fin and shell fishermen as well as the federal grants derived from excise taxes on their equipment and marine fuel. (Not our licenses) The Division also relies on a portion of the State General Appropriation to support marine fisheries and endangered species conservation as well as the many associated services provided to the public.
 

Edited April 24, 2021 by nickmarch

[vdep217]

1 minute ago, Lunatic said:

Ok but we all wish they invested the money, we the hunters generate from federal grants, in something we can benefit from instead of wasting it on things like wind farms and tunnels.  

Most if not all of the grants are specific to the project like the ranges tge turtle tunnels etc.  These grants can not be used for other things and there are rules as well.  That why with the wma ranges being redone it includes up to 30 caliber.  It was a stipulation for the grant money

[Lunatic]

Just now, vdep217 said:

Most if not all of the grants are specific to the project like the ranges tge turtle tunnels etc.  These grants can not be used for other things and there are rules as well.  That why with the wma ranges being redone it includes up to 30 caliber.  It was a stipulation for the grant money

Again, I wish they spent the money differently 

[vdep217]

Just now, Lunatic said:

Again, I wish they spent the money differently 

I get what you are saying but they are not allowed.  The monies the state gets alloted for pitman Robertson act can be used though..  

[nickmarch]

This report contains the many accomplishments of an experienced and dedicated staff. These accomplishments are primarily funded by the license fees of hunters, anglers and commercial fin and shell fishermen as well as the federal grants derived from excise taxes on their equipment and marine fuel. The Division also relies on a portion of the State General Appropriation to support marine fisheries and endangered species conservation as well as the many associated services provided to the public.

I haven't seen an annual report that says that they did much of anything for deer or turkey habitat.

[Lunatic]

4 minutes ago, vdep217 said:

I get what you are saying but they are not allowed.  The monies the state gets alloted for pitman Robertson act can be used though..  

The problem is with the feds and not just in this case. The world is up side down. They take our money and then give some back with conditions attached. How did we get to this point? Its like we are pheasants working for a king. Didn't we do away with that in 16th century?