Jim_ Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) Quote SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday threw out California's ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines, saying the law violates the U.S. Constitution's protection of the right to bear firearms. “Even well-intentioned laws must pass constitutional muster,” appellate Judge Kenneth Lee wrote for the panel’s majority. California's ban on magazines holding more than 10 bullets “strikes at the core of the Second Amendment — the right to armed self-defense.” He noted that California passed the law “in the wake of heart-wrenching and highly publicized mass shootings,” but said that isn't enough to justify a ban whose scope “is so sweeping that half of all magazines in America are now unlawful to own in California.” California Attorney General Xavier Becerra did not immediately say if he would ask the full appellate court to reconsider the ruling by the three judges, or if he would appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. He also did not immediately say if the state would seek a delay of the ruling to prevent an immediate buying spree. Sales are currently on hold based on a stay by the lower court and cannot immediately resume. California Rifle & Pistol Association attorney Chuck Michel called it “a huge victory” for gun owners “and the right to choose to own a firearm to defend your family,” while a group that favors firearms restrictions called it ”dangerous" and expects it will be overturned. The ruling has national implications because other states have similar restrictions, though it immediately applies only to Western states under the appeals court's jurisdiction. Gun rights groups have been trying to get such cases before the nation’s high court now that it has a more conservative majority. Aside from the magazine ban itself, Michel and the unaffiliated Second Amendment Foundation said the case has legal implications for other gun restrictions should it reach the justices because it could allow the court to clarify an obscure legal debate over what standard of review should be used. "The Supreme Court seems inclined to do away with the complicated subjective tests that many courts have wrongly applied in Second Amendment cases, in favor of a clearer more objective ‘originalist’ approach that considers the text, history and tradition of a law to determine what infringements might be tolerated,” Michel said in an email. Friday's ruling was a fractured decision partly because of that issue: Two of the three judges voted to toss out the state’s ban, while the third judge dissented. U.S. District Court Judge Barbara Lynn of Texas, who had been named the third judge on the appellate panel, said the majority’s ruling conflicts with decisions in six other federal appellate courts across the nation, and with a 2015 ruling by a different panel of the 9th Circuit itself. She said she would have upheld California's law based on that precedent. “This ruling is an extreme outlier" given those earlier decisions, said Eric Tirschwell, managing director for Everytown Law, the litigation team affiliated with Everytown for Gun Safety that favors firearms restrictions. “We expect the full court will rehear the case and correct this erroneous, dangerous, and out-of-step decision.” Friday’s decision upholds a 2017 ruling by San Diego-based U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez, who blocked a new law that would have barred gun owners from possessing magazines holding more than 10 bullets. But he and the appeals court went further by declaring unconstitutional a state law that had prohibited buying or selling such magazines since 2000. That law had let those who had the magazines before then keep them, but barred new sales or imports. Edited August 14, 2020 by Jim_ _X7, BowhunterNJ, yoda4x4 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rather Be Hunting Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Hopefully leads to lifting of magazine limits on states like NJ. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-appeals-court-californias-ban-2nd-amendment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allmann Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 This should be far reaching and would really put a damper on biden's plan if by some small chance in hell he gets elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowhunterNJ Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Topics merged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&M Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Will this help us in NJ? Hoping so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowhunterNJ Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, M&M said: Will this help us in NJ? Hoping so It should and all the law abiding gun owners who had to sell off their 30 round mags should get reparations from the Democrats to fund purchasing new 30 round mags after their constitutional rights were clearly violated. Or just charge Murphy, he can afford it. M&M, _X7, thefirstndsecond and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&M Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, BowhunterNJ said: It should and all the law abiding gun owners who had to sell off their 30 round mags should get reparations from the Democrats to fund purchasing new 30 round mags after their constitutional rights were clearly violated. Or just charge Murphy, he can afford it. So true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ3a Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I am going to need scuba gear to find my old ones M&M and cantw82start 1 1 I spent most of my money on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&M Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, CJ3a said: I am going to need scuba gear to find my old ones Lol. Same here. Or maybe a shovel. Edited August 15, 2020 by M&M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megavites Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 wow..pretty big development! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojaffa Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Good news is always welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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