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I've been a Mathews guy for years! Yesterday while watching football I surfed the web for other bow companies. Has anybody shot or owned a Athens archery, New Breed or Obsession bows? Just curious on feedback. :lookaround:

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I was in the market for a new bow over the summer. Now I've been shooting Mathews since 1996, before that Hoyt and Jennings. I was eyeing up the Obsession Sniper GT, but not one dealer near me, but there is one 2 miles from my job. I called to ask if they had a SNIPER GT in stock not so much to shoot it, but just handle it, but they never got any. I was then back looking at the Mathews Z3, but while at Targetters I handled the Z2 as well, I ended up buying the Z2....Price point was excellent, and I love it. All the major players make top quality bows these days

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I am particular to PSE bows but if I were to purchase another brand of bow right now it would possibly be Elite, but more than likely be Xpedition.  I still just love the way PSE bows feel in my hand and shoot

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I went from Bear to Jennings then to Mathews for years and am now with PSE. I think it comes down to budget. If most of your shots are under 30 yds then I see no need to spend a small fortune on a new bow. Like stated above My PSE feels and shoots good.

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I went from a Jennings to a PSE to a Mathews. My PSE was nice and I liked it but I LOVE my Mathews now. The shop I purchased from sold Mathews Hoyt and G5 and he said the G5 was one of the most accurate out of the box bows he has shot.

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Absolutely love my Hoyt Faktor. Atleast right now, if I were to get another bow...I don't see any of the competitors with a product right now that would make me considering switching to a different company. The Halon is nice, but I still don't think that its in the same class as the carbon bows Hoyt produces. 

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I picked up a Concept Archery Bow about a year ago, its a small company and is all made right here in New Jersey. Washington 07882 to be exact. very nice shooting bow full unlimited life time warranty and it offers 99 percent let off. at full draw I'm holding like 3 0nces. Bow shoots very nice  very easy to group. I picked one up just for fact on warranty and small American made product. doesn't hurt to give them a look www.conceptarchery.com

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I'm looking at Matthews, PSE, and Xpedition.  Xpedition is leading the way right now.  I won't be ruling out anyone but those three are frontrunners for sure.  

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Bowtech Destroyer here. Can't find a reason to upgrade.

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Great thread.

 

I will be in the market for a bow come Feb.

 

Things have changed so much.

 

I had Jennings, then golden eagle, my last bow was a high Country carbon 4 runner.

 

Now I have no idea what to get.

 

Looking to spend maybe 800 total.

 

Matthews z7 extreme, z2 or z3

 

OR elite or no idea.

 

Back when I was heavy into bow hunting it was single cam but I am hearing things going back to dual cam?

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Bowtech Insanity CPXL... I thought that bow was magic when I first got it.

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That was from my understanding a very small amount of bows. I've had mine for 4 years now with no issues and love it.

 

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Go to Sportsman's Center Davis or Simon Peters and they'll definitely shoot you in the right direction. They have ranges up where you can shoot a few

 

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Every so often I contemplate the possibility of a new bow.

 

As soon as I shoot my 2005 Mathews Switchback, that thought quickly disappears.

 

I like it too much and cannot justify the $1000++ for a new one, lol!

 

Good luck in your search :up: 

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Just saw the 2017 lineup from Xpedition and the specs on the Denali look sweet.  I'm putting that bow at the top of my wishlist.  Gonna have to stop by Strictly Archery and shoot it when they get them in  

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Have you ever looked into an Elite bow? I shoot the energy 32... 2016 bow is called the impulse I think elite makes an awesome bow..

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If it were me, these are the companies Id look into...

 

Xpedition

Elite

Prime

Athens

PSE

 

I used to think it was only a Hoyt and Matthews world...until I realized they are "Ranger boats" and just market the heaviest and have the longest past time following, along with Skeeter, so its what everyone was generally used to as the "best". Yea a Ranger is a bad a$$ boat but we only know of them because of marketing and popularity along with a huge figure in the sport with Forrest Lee Wood. Now, if your not hard headed you realize Bass cat, Champion, Stratos all make/made just as good of a boat now and many handle better performance wise, rough water, rough water and speed etc. Just an example. Almost to a point that they are ALL comparable in some ways and ALL should be looked into if your wanting to purchase a bass boat. Archery is very similar in that regards.

 

These other bows shoot just as well if not better. It still DEPENDS ON THE ARCHER 100%. For me I was able to repeat my grip better, without thinking, with the bows I mentioned vs Matthews or Hoyt. t was a "just feels right" decision for me in the end. Although I heard the newest Hoyt finally changed to where there is no spongy back wall/cable stops and I believe a change to their grip as well, but not positive on the latter. I know their old grips, many guys would take them off and/or have a custom grip. They were too wide for my liking...which doesnt means its not perfect for another individual. 

 

Shoot as many as you can. Dont become loyal to any one because of the name until one tells you to, because YOU loved the way it felt/shot.

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Was a Hoyt guy for a while but after having cam lean and tuning issues I left them. IMO the one company that is actually coming out with new innovative technology is Prime. The other companies just keep making the same bows year after year while tweaking maybe one little thing that doesn't matter all that much and marketing it as the end all be all...till next season. I've never shot a more forgiving bow than my Prime and what a easy bow to tune. Prime has a side by side cam along with a flexible cable guard that just about eliminating any kind of cam lean and if you watch high speed footage of different cams compared you can see a huge difference. They also I believe are the only bow with draw stops top and bottom cams making the back wall rock solid. They have great customer service along with free string replacement every two years for the original owner which in the long run is hundreds of dollars of savings! it comes with a Hoyt like handle that can be removed to use just the riser as I did with a little hockey tape. Whoever shoots one doesn't look back, it's that awesome.

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I have one bow, and it's a Darton.  Not the biggest, baddest name out there.  But I can put arrows into a silver dollar at 25 yards during the season.  I could probably do 30 yards, but I hunt out to 25.

 

Very happy with the bow, had it for at least 15 years.  It does the job I ask it to.

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I am now on year 7 with my 2010, 65# Matthews z7. I could not possibly overstate what a sweet (heavy) bow that has been. Perfect blend of speed, accuracy, forgiveness and ease of tuning. Not many things in life far exceed their initial investment, but the ROI on this fine instrument is off the charts. I would feel less confident with a rifle in my hands to be honest. I often think about an excuse to get a new bow, but then I shoot it and say "why" ?

 

If I were on the market, I might lean toward brand loyalty and would certainly give the latest suite of Matthews bows a shot, but I would focus on these points and these points only (cost not being one of them, because like the z7, it's a very long term investment - I am buying it for at least a 7-10 year run).

 

1) Ease of shooting / forgiveness (over speed). Not gonna split hairs over 10 FPS. Today's modern bows are so freakin' fast it's not an issue. Generally speaking, a shorter brace height helps a bow generate more arrow speed. ... The bow with the shorter brace height pushes the arrow longer than the other. A bow's forgiveness relates to accuracy. A longer brace height will be more accurate. A forgiving bow minimizes an archer's mistakes, while an unforgiving bow magnifies them. A longer ATA will make a bow more forgiving as well.

 

2) Ease of tuning and keeping tune - I am not interested in every having to deal with cam lean, or yoke tuning or wherever else might necessary to get optimal tune. I am buying a bow that factors all that in and eliminates all the tuning BS.

 

3) Grip / hand torque free - part of ease of shooting / foregiveness I suppose, but the grip can make a HUGE difference. I don't want anything that will contribute to hand torque. My pretty rosewood handle Matthews grip SUCKED until I put a new FOCUS grip on it. Not as pretty - but oh so deadly.

 

4) Pro shop support / convenience - even when traveling out of state. I don't want some niche bow that could very well be the best feat of modern engineering, but it better be common enough that if I need a pro shop, I can find one within reason.

 

That's it. Don't get caught up in the IBO speed race - trust me the deer don't care if an arrow zips through them at 280 fps or 360 fps, that arrow is still stuck in the ground most likely (unless you shooting rage LOL). I just want to make sure when my arrow zips through it's in the vitals!!!

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Xpedition just came out with their 2017 lineup today. Some impressive specs across the board. They have their new Denali model with an almost 7" BH, 34" A to A and 348 IBO. The explorer ss is a small A to A bow (30") pushing up to 358 IBO. Thats haulin. From what Ive read, a lot of bows lose a lot of speed/performance when switching to a heavy arrow but supposedly Xpedition numbers stay up there from all of the threads Ive seen. PSE holds extra weight well too. I know I saw a bunch of Obsession threads where guys speed would drop significantly, too much, as they tried to increase arrow weight. I dont remember which models though. And with that being said, Im not a speed guy by nay means(otherwise Id be shooting 70lbs and trying to get every last inch of draw length that I could), but if I can get "decent" speed with a heavier arrow, thats what I want. Im not looking to shoot a 360 grain arrow over 300 fps. Give me 420-450 grains at 270 plus and Im happy and getting the best of both worlds. I know my X7 @ 60lbs with a 422 grain arrow is still at 270fps. 

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