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These Articles speak for themselves,   It is the start for other towns to Follow.   The Circled paragraph is the Kicker The Stae will not Challenge Hoem rule as I read it. The Links for each page is at the bottom go to get the full stories. there are answers for a lot of questions asked on here.   

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This is just ridiculous, let these idiots hit a deer on the road once the population is out of control and let it kill someone. They will be begging to get hunters back. Just sickening. 

I have seen first hand what over deer population can do.  Right by where I grew up there was over population and deer would just continuously try n cross the highway.  I Watched a deer get punted by a car on one side  and flying head on into a van going the opposite flow of traffic and cause a 4-5car pile up. This was like 8-9years ago.

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Time we take this to the supreme court?    This means if I own acreage in Holmdel, I can't even target shoot a bow or air rifle on my own land?  

It seems to me that multiple protected rights are being violated.  

It's no different than saying "Holmdel has passed a resolution where you are not allowed to drive fossil fueled vehicles, only non-fossil fueled vehicles are allowed"      That would mean that state and county funded roads passing through Holmdel, would have to honor that rule?  It would be shot down so fast it's not even funny, so how is this any different?

 

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7 minutes ago, JHbowhunter said:

Time we take this to the supreme court?    This means if I own acreage in Holmdel, I can't even target shoot a bow or air rifle on my own land?  

It seems to me that multiple protected rights are being violated.  

It's no different than saying "Holmdel has passed a resolution where you are not allowed to drive fossil fueled vehicles, only non-fossil fueled vehicles are allowed"      That would mean that state and county funded roads passing through Holmdel, would have to honor that rule?  It would be shot down so fast it's not even funny, so how is this any different?

 

Can’t agree more, just ridiculous.  Becuase you know stricter “gun/weapon laws” really work. Look at Chicago.

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Imagine if your town traverses the GSP...  And you pass and ordinance that bans transportation of guns through your town...    Is that constitutional?  A road that bisects the entire state, state and federally funded by the taxpayers and those driving it - violating YOUR constitutional rights.    Unfortunately there must be more liberals in Holmdel than folks with brains, to allow such a thing to be passed.  Hard to believe - it's the township of billionaires, you would think they have more common sense.

 

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We need to push back at what point is enough a enough. A man has the right to do as he pleases on his own property. no one has the right to infringe on the way we live. the state f&g sets the hunting regulations not liberal council members. shame on the state for not backing the laws they set in place and allowing this to happen, if all municipalities do this then f&g will no longer be needed so it is on they’re best interests to stop this crap.

 

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36 minutes ago, JHbowhunter said:

Imagine if your town traverses the GSP...  And you pass and ordinance that bans transportation of guns through your town...    Is that constitutional?  A road that bisects the entire state, state and federally funded by the taxpayers and those driving it - violating YOUR constitutional rights.    Unfortunately there must be more liberals in Holmdel than folks with brains, to allow such a thing to be passed.  Hard to believe - it's the township of billionaires, you would think they have more common sense.

 

I think you are answering your own ?.   Holmdel is a town turning more and more liberal and it's clear that any weapon just does not fit with the agenda.  I'm surprised you are shocked by this.  The state has shifted greatly and towns like this are becoming the norm.  The wake up call came a long time ago but a lot of people were asleep at the wheel and kept voting against their rights because they didn't believe such a sinister agenda exists.  They don't believe in your right to hunt or right to own and use a firearm.   They hope you'll just give in and not fight their socialist agenda.   Democrats no longer exist in NJ, they are all socialists. 

1 hour ago, JHbowhunter said:

Time we take this to the supreme court?    This means if I own acreage in Holmdel, I can't even target shoot a bow or air rifle on my own land?  

It seems to me that multiple protected rights are being violated.  

It's no different than saying "Holmdel has passed a resolution where you are not allowed to drive fossil fueled vehicles, only non-fossil fueled vehicles are allowed"      That would mean that state and county funded roads passing through Holmdel, would have to honor that rule?  It would be shot down so fast it's not even funny, so how is this any different?

 

That's right.  Your rights to use your land are subject to what the town council decides you are allowed to do.  Sounds like communism doesn't it?   This is why I am so skeptical of anyone in gov't, be it municipal, county, state or federal and especially if they are democrats and say they "care" about their constituents.    The interesting thing is that the two parks in Holmdel allowed bowhunting, but after this vote that's gone because it would be in violation of the ordinance and you can't hunt your own land either.  The lunatics have taken over.  The only solution is for the state supreme court to vacate the ordinance and with a leftist state supreme court, I don't see that happening. 

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23 minutes ago, Bones said:

We need to push back at what point is enough a enough. A man has the right to do as he pleases on his own property. no one has the right to infringe on the way we live. the state f&g sets the hunting regulations not liberal council members. shame on the state for not backing the laws they set in place and allowing this to happen, if all municipalities do this then f&g will no longer be needed so it is on they’re best interests to stop this crap.

 

DFW is a political organization under the purview of the political NJDEP.  They are not independent and bend to the will of the commissioner.   You need to wake up and understand it's too late to stop this in NJ.   You have no right to hunt or fish, it's a privilege not a right and you can't push back because you are in the minority.  Any town in NJ can do this and deny you the right to hunt your own land and it's happening right before your eyes. WAKE UP!

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9 hours ago, JHbowhunter said:

Time we take this to the supreme court?    This means if I own acreage in Holmdel, I can't even target shoot a bow or air rifle on my own land?  

It seems to me that multiple protected rights are being violated.  

It's no different than saying "Holmdel has passed a resolution where you are not allowed to drive fossil fueled vehicles, only non-fossil fueled vehicles are allowed"      That would mean that state and county funded roads passing through Holmdel, would have to honor that rule?  It would be shot down so fast it's not even funny, so how is this any different?

 

This has been happening for many years. Little by little they took our land without eliminating our mortgages or taxes. They tell you what and how you can built on your property. They tell you what you can keep and do on your property. They even have power to make you cut grass or make you remove unregistered vehicles. Shit, in my town they can make you remove vehicles with commercial plates. We let it happened and MANY defend government intrusion as necessary to control what your neighbors are doing. People will say "I don't want to live next to the guy who will not cut his grass or parks his broken pick up tuck on his front lawn so I support local regulations which control what people can and can do on their own land. Well, if you one of them then don't complaint about bow ban in your town because this is just another case of your neighbor trying to control what you do on your property.    

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If you can afford living in Holmdel and Colts Neck.......you don't have much else to worry about, except deer huntin in your towns. 

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What happens if you break this ordinance and take it to court. Then when you lose in municipal court, can you appeal it and take it to another court where you would win or no?

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1 hour ago, Lunatic said:

This has been happening for many years. Little by little they took our land without eliminating our mortgages or taxes. They tell you what and how you can built on your property. They tell you what you can keep and do on your property. They even have power to make you cut grass or make you remove unregistered vehicles. Shit, in my town they can make you remove vehicles with commercial plates. We let it happened and MANY defend government intrusion as necessary to control what your neighbors are doing. People will say "I don't want to live next to the guy who will not cut his grass or parks his broken pick up tuck on his front lawn so I support local regulations which control what people can and can do on their own land. Well, if you one of them then don't complaint about bow ban in your town because this is just another case of your neighbor trying to control what you do on your property.    

Amen.  Give the liberals a taste of their medicine and turn in illegal immigrants to ICE. 

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Sounds like more fighting.

 

At some point I hope you guys get preemption. 

Such a shame that people want to take away rights and reduce choices.

 

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7 hours ago, Faster said:

What happens if you break this ordinance and take it to court. Then when you lose in municipal court, can you appeal it and take it to another court where you would win or no?

Any appeal of a Municipal Court ruling goes on to the Superior Court of the county the town is in

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Lots of towns already have no discharge/no hunting laws on the books: Parsippany, Wayne, North Haledon, Riverdale to name a few. The one in Parsippany specifically states it it "illegal to discharge a firearm or cast an arrow".  

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