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09/14/2013 - NJ Bow Season Opening Day Reports

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I actually got out late around 8:30 or 9 with an old bow since my bow is on it's way to Idaho. Checked the wind and decided to still-hunt a creek bottom that acts as bedding and leads to more bedding from a corn field.

 

Ended up spotting a doe that bedded out ahead of me. After some time I was able to get within about 15 yards of her. If it weren't for the wind and creek I never could have snuck up on her like I did. When I got as close as I could, it ended up still being too thick where she was and I just couldn't get a shot. If she stood up, I thought I could probably snake an arrow through an opening, but after trying to wait her out for a short while, she must have got a swirl of my wind or finally saw me because she eventually busted out of there.

 

That was the only deer I saw.

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Wow what a great day i'm having.. Busting my ass.. Those deer are killing me today... Forgot to go to bed early last night and before i knew it it was almost time to head for the woods.. I'm exhausted but still got more work to do... Got in my stand about 5 or so this morning,, Wind was kicking up and i was underdressed.. got cold.. So about legal shooting time i said screw this i'm getting down and doing some stalking..  Climbed out of my stand and walked down the hedge row a few yards then spotted a doe about 60 yards off to my right.. She saw me before i saw her so i just kept walking her way till she ran off....  Followed the path i thought she took.. Got to the end and doubled back on the other side of the hedge. Again she saw me first and jumped out in front about 30 feet ahead.. Not enough time for a shot..  Worked my way up the row to where i thought she would be and saw her again about 70 yards out. Sliped to the other side of the row for concealment and worked my way towards her.. Got to the end and she was gone.. 

 

 Moved to a different location and wasnt there 10 minutes before a couple nice does moved in at about 30 yards.. Got a shot off.. Hit low behind the shoulder.. Good blood trail ..Tracked for about 2 or 300 yards  and backed out.. shes a tough b*tch.. as much as she bleed she should have dropped in less than a 100.. musta only got one lung.. Heading back out now to see if i can  pick up the trail and find her..

 

 

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I saw nothing... had 2 mosquitos come in around 9:30.  A few squirrels.  The wind kept swirling, then stopping then picking up again.  Didn't even have a bear come in... heading back down shortly.

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I take it back.  The bear showed up this afternoon.  Lots of deer... just not where they are supposed to be.  As in, on the front lawn, not in the woods.

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Went out with my youngest brother Mike this afternoon. He saw six deer, since they were well out of range and not heading his way with little time left, he decided to put a stalk on them. He got to within 25 yards, went to draw back and they caught him. They GONE!

 

I didn't see anything this afternoon.

 

 

Axiom, arrow stayed in her?

 

Low behind the front leg should be heart, unless it was quartering or something. Hope you can find her.

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Saw over 40 deer. Lost track nothing but bucks close enough. Watched two sets of bucks sparring wich was cool to watch. Prob was they all stayed in middle of beans. Great to be back out

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Wow what a great day i'm having.. Busting my ass.. Those deer are killing me today... Forgot to go to bed early last night and before i knew it it was almost time to head for the woods.. I'm exhausted but still got more work to do... Got in my stand about 5 or so this morning,, Wind was kicking up and i was underdressed.. got cold.. So about legal shooting time i said screw this i'm getting down and doing some stalking.. Climbed out of my stand and walked down the hedge row a few yards then spotted a doe about 60 yards off to my right.. She saw me before i saw her so i just kept walking her way till she ran off.... Followed the path i thought she took.. Got to the end and doubled back on the other side of the hedge. Again she saw me first and jumped out in front about 30 feet ahead.. Not enough time for a shot.. Worked my way up the row to where i thought she would be and saw her again about 70 yards out. Sliped to the other side of the row for concealment and worked my way towards her.. Got to the end and she was gone..

 

Moved to a different location and wasnt there 10 minutes before a couple nice does moved in at about 30 yards.. Got a shot off.. Hit low behind the shoulder.. Good blood trail ..Tracked for about 2 or 300 yards and backed out.. shes a tough b*tch.. as much as she bleed she should have dropped in less than a 100.. musta only got one lung.. Heading back out now to see if i can pick up the trail and find her..

 

 

 

 

Picked up the blood trail this afternoon with my trusty dog who is as useful as tits on a bull and followed it about 30 more yards to a spot where she layed down for awhile.. After that the trail ran cold.. Searched high and low.. Nothing.. Never seen a deer bleed so much and go so far..  Will be back out in the am after my morning sit .. but i wont be looking for the deer, i'll be looking for the buzzards feeding on my kill...... :lookaround:

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As usual I could not sleep last night and finally fell asleep around 1:00am. The alarm rang at 4:00. Jumped up out of bed and into the shower. Leave the house at 4:45 and get to my spot at 5:00.. Get out of the car and the first thing I notice is it is kinda cool. That kinda cool that makes you wonder why I did not choose a slightly heavier pull over. Anyway, I gather my gear and head to my stand. I climb up and am hunting ready by 5:15am. The early part of the morning was uneventfull till about 8:30 ish, no shot and she was small.. Had a few squirrels eating my corn, but that was it. I climbed down at 10:00 and headrd back to the Subaru, then whent home, made breakfast, ate, kissed my daughter and wife, then passed out on the couch for a couple hours.

Got back into my stand at 2:00 and it was dead til around 6:45 and I heard rustling of leaves behind me and to the right. I see a big brown 140# buck with a basket rack walking past me at 30 yards. Funny thing is you had to look hard to see his rack.. That was cool. about 10 minutes later this 35-40 lb. doe comes in. "Where is your mommy" I wanted to yell at her..lol I did not attempt to shoot her.

Climbed down at dark and came home. It was a very nice morning and glad to be back in the woods after a 3 year layoff...

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Saw nothing this morning. It was pretty windy up on the mountain. This evening the wind settled some. I saw 6 deer with 5 of them being buttons all within 30 yards. The lone doe walked straight out of the bedding into the corn offering no shot angle.

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Axiom, arrow stayed in her?

 

Low behind the front leg should be heart, unless it was quartering or something. Hope you can find her.

 

 

 

Damned if i know.. never found the arrow... perfect broad side ... It looked like a heart shot and the way she was bleeding kinda made me think it was...  But alot of the blood was frothy and i dont see anything surviving as long as this thing did  with a hole in the boiler room...  Heart shot ruled out...

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Damned if i know.. never found the arrow... perfect broad side ... It looked like a heart shot and the way she was bleeding kinda made me think it was...  But alot of the blood was frothy and i dont see anything surviving as long as this thing did  with a hole in the boiler room...  Heart shot ruled out...

Sounds like you shot it through one of the front legs.  They will bleed quite a bit on a leg shot.

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 Moved to a different location and wasnt there 10 minutes before a couple nice does moved in at about 30 yards.. Got a shot off.. Hit low behind the shoulder.. Good blood trail ..Tracked for about 2 or 300 yards  and backed out.. shes a tough b*tch.. as much as she bleed she should have dropped in less than a 100.. musta only got one lung..

Low behind the shoulder sounds like you hit behind the heart and below the lungs. I have seen a few hit there that were not recovered. One was a doe I hit and we trailed, with alot of blood, over 1.5 miles in Ohio. Friend of mine killed her 3 weeks later with a puss-filled wound low and behind the shoulder. Another was a buck my brother shot low and slightly behind the shoulder. Had a walking bloodtrail...very prolific...for several hundred yards. The deer was never found. Been on a few others that were low and behind the shoulder, with alot of blood, and long blood trails. Not all were found.

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Seen 3 bucks 5 does this morning wind was killer up here in zone 9 long story short deer on alarm and fawns behind moms and holding back for over a minute or so shot under one.Went truck shopping the rest of the day and came home with a new F-150 after a few beers and figuring out all the gagets in the truck will be back at it tommorow aferternoon

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Tag one tonite.. She looked up and I drilled her straight on thru the bottom of the throat threw the chest .. Never move a inch after the shot

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Axiom, wasnt it you that was bragging about your native american heritage after you shot a whole 3 arrows from your new bow??..way to wound your first deer of the season, douche.

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Sounds like you shot it through one of the front legs.  They will bleed quite a bit on a leg shot.

 

I think beaverman is exactly right.

 

I didn't want to discourage you, but the only thing I've seen bleed that much for over 300 yards without recovery is a muscle hit, leg, brisket, etc. I've never seen a muscle hit kill a deer, even with all the blood loss, so the deer is likely to live if it's not pushed. (as long as it can heal the wound without infection). 

 

 

Kidney can also be a real long trail if pushed, but they do die and you would have to hit high and back by a lot, which is no where near where you said you hit, so.

 

 

Now, arrows can also do funny things once they hit a deer. I can think of two cases where perfect hits were made but the arrow deflected through the deer.

 

I remember tracking a huge doe for my brother and when we came up on her, we could see two arrow holes on the same side. He had pretty much 11 ringed her, but the arrow rode up one of her ribs and back out the same side on a steep uphill shot. No vitals were touched on the first arrow. That was a crazy sight to see. If someone told me about that, I probably wouldn't believe it without having seen it.

 

I also hit a big old doe at about 30 yards once. Perfect shot, watched her run about 50 yards and out of sight, thought I heard her crash, but wasn't sure. When I got down later to track, I found my arrow covered and it wasn't long before I quickly recovered her in about 90 yards. However it was then I noticed that my perfect hit on a broadside deer actually deflected through her and exited out under her back leg. To this day I have no idea how it did that. It ended up catching lung and liver, which puts deer down fast too, but must have caught a rib in such a way as to send the arrow down and back. 

 

Just liver takes a while, but lung and liver seems to be one of the fastest combinations, other than double lung. Heart actually seems to take a few seconds longer sometimes. One of the big does I shot last year was center punched through the heart. You could see the 3 blades dead center on. That deer actually went about 100 yards on a full tilt sprint. Double lung never seems to go over about 50-60ish. I guess what I'm saying is, if you're tracking well over 100 yards, the hit was not as perfect as it may have looked. Re-access the situation.

 

 

I've helped track a lot of animals for myself and others in the past 20 some odd years. Sadly over those years, I've learned that this happens. Unfortunately it's a bad part of bow hunting. BUT, as long as our # 1 goal is to always avoid this at all costs by only shooting at relaxed animals, within your comfort zone, on the right angle, with a bow you've shot a ton and your broadheads are dead on, etc....We're fine. As long as you do all that, you can't beat yourself up too bad.

 

 

In any case, you might want to recheck the area where you're dog left off and the trail stopped. Chances sound slim that she died, but....That's another thing, they can get holed up in some tiny tight spots and die. I've had them under logs where I walked past them numerous times, in a tiny ditch where I couldn't see them, had them die in creeks and rivers. If the blood trail got crazy at the end (like no pattern zig zagging everywhere)....she could very well be dead right there. They get all "loopy" when the blood starts to run out and will basically stumble all over the place.

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Axiom, wasnt it you that was bragging about your native american heritage after you shot a whole 3 arrows from your new bow??..way to wound your first deer of the season, douche.         

 

 

Yeah,   as a matter of fact it was me..  But  unfortunatley the American Indian never used Cross bows, which is what i was using  so,  i didnt inherit those genes.. If i was useing my Hoyt,  something a little more similar to what my ancestors used,  i have no doubt instinct would have kicked in and that doe would have been laying where it was shot... :whistling:

 

 Some of you other guys may be right about my shot.. I was elavated by about 20 feet.. Shot was too low to get both lungs at that angle unless it deflected like some pointed out could happen, and may have infact went thru a leg but i doubt it.. There was alot of froth in some of the blood so i had to at least clip a lung..  Going out this after noon for one last look.. giving the buzzards some time to find it..

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