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Any trad guys string walk at all? I'm just starting to get into trad archery and watched this guys video. Its very informative and he mainly talks and breaks down his technique of string walking and using a "25 yard fixed crawl". It is surprisingly accurate and for just starting out I am shooting some pretty solid groups out to 20 yards.  Just curious if anyone else is shooting this technique. I know trad archery is " journey" for everyone.  Around 1:05 he talks specifically about it in a little more detail.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E1vKkSSoNs

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Although i have seen guys use the trchnique I wouldn’t advise it for hunting. You might as well put a sight on the bow instead. Trad should be instictive IMO. A consistant anchor is the most crucial thing. My accuracy went way up when i started using Rick Welches technique. You have to custom fletch your arrows for it but gave me consistency i never had before. Check put some of his videos

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String walking really requires a long bow (length) to tune adequately at all crawls. You would also have to use an ILF bow to adjust tiller correctly for proper tuning. I would recommend a 3 finger under anchor point as high on your face as comfortable and consistent as possible. Then shoot (tune) full length arrows. This will give you as close to a “point on” aiming method without changing crawls in a hunting situation.

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I've heard mixed things about stringwalking for hunting. The push is an awesome movie and a ton of guys swear by using a fixed crawl for hunting. Maybe ask for more advice on archerytalk or tradgang.

 

Like gobblengrunt said, shooting 3 under and full length arrows will give you a much closer point on. In some cases, you might not even need much of a crawl.

 

I'm pretty damn new to trad archery, and was trying to work with some crawls, and even gun barreling, but looking down the arrow just doesn't feel right to my brain at all. I got some quality advice from arne moe and I'm just shooting instinctively now. Getting your form consistent is step 1. Start at 5 yards from the bag and shoot 1 arrow at a time. Your brain will adjust and you eventually just keep moving back 1 step at a time. I'm consistently shooting good groups at 15 yards now and I've really only been shooting for just under 2 months, and only on days when the weather is nice

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Although i have seen guys use the trchnique I wouldn’t advise it for hunting. You might as well put a sight on the bow instead. Trad should be instictive IMO. A consistant anchor is the most crucial thing. My accuracy went way up when i started using Rick Welches technique. You have to custom fletch your arrows for it but gave me consistency i never had before. Check put some of his videos

Have you attended his shooting school? It seems like something I'd like to do in the future

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Mallard,

 

I have been shooting Traditional before it was called "Traditional Archery".

 

Ran the complete circle... Longbow, Recurve, Compound, Recurve, and finally back to the Longbow.

 

Never once used the three finger style, nor sighting down the arrow like a shotgun.

 

Just as life in general, There is no fast way to do things.

 

You need to put your time in and Practice... Practice ... Practice.

 

Get to know your bow and equipment, intimately.

 

There are no short cuts to anything.

 

Start close up about 5 yards or so.

 

Get your basic form down pat.

 

Increase out another 5 yards, for total of ten.

 

Practice, Practice, Practice some more.

 

If you are putting the majority of your arrows into a styrofoam cup at 10 yards.

 

Move out to 15, etc...

 

Did I happen to mention... PRACTICE?  

 

So get out there and P-R-A-C-T-I-C-E :up:

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I am an occasional "trad shooter' but not yet a trad hunter.  Gobblengrunt got me set up.  The man literally tuned my bow with the proper arrows, and went out back and having never shot my bow hit a spot on the target the size of a silver dollar at like 25 yards with his first shot. No gimmicks - just "feel".  I think if you want to hunt with this equipment, it's all about the feel and instinct and practice.  When I practice frequently my confidence level shoots through the roof and I am "ready to do this", but when I don't practice for a week or a month - no way I am gonna take it out on a live animal. 

 

It's been really hard for me to get over that hump from practice to hunting situations so the compound goes afield.  

 

(not sure what nuggets of wisdom I added here, other than I don't think this is the method you want to use for hunting)

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Have you attended his shooting school? It seems like something I'd like to do in the future

No I haven’t, watched a lot of videos about his technique though and set up my bow/arrows accordingly. Don’t want to hijack mallards thread, i will pm you what i learned
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I played with walking the string when I first stared shooting traditional 30 years ago but in the end I found that shooting instinctively with one finger above the arrow worked best for me.  

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Mallard,

 

After you start practicing on your own standing straight up like the Target archers/shooters do, begin shooting from awkward positions.

 

Shoot sitting, kneeling, laying on your stomach, laying across a log, turn and shoot behind yourself, and from flat on your back sitting up shooting, etc.

 

Because when you get good at shooting from awkward positions you will kick ass hunting.

 

You will never be caught off guard for the shot.

 

Also, try stump shooting. Take a stroll alone through the woods, shooting at leaves, stumps, branches, ect.

 

This will help you get your distance/yardage focused and your shots zeroed in on target, without knowing the exact distance.

 

You will be kicking butt fairly quickly... BUT you need to focus and make the commitment.

 

Have fun and don't be too hard on yourself at the beginning and quit.

 

Hang in there... it will come grasshopper :up:

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No matter what style of shooting you end up with, you ALWAYS are utilizing some type of aiming system. Even when an archer thinks they are shooting “instinctive”, there is a subconscious sight picture where your brain sees the relation between your arrow, target, hand position, etc. that’s “aims” for you.

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I haven't got the slightest clue on what most of the crawls or techniques mentioned here are, just do it instinctively. Think of yourself becoming a purist of all that you do, that's how you really learn, What I found when I really started archery 7 years ago is that the more things you focus on with correcting a form, the more complicated it will become. Just listen to your body and it will tell you how you fell comfortable standing, drawing, anchoring, etc I'd honestly recommend getting your self some flu flu's with blunt points, settling down on one bow, and really get to learn it, I truly do believe target archery screws up the brain, just do stump shooting, shoot at anything in nature,  single at a fern with a dark spot from a clump, shoot a tree stumps, sections of logs, forks, woodpecker holes whatever, take potshots at chipmunks n' birds, all of these things will combine into making the process, well... natural. The flu flu's are important as they are much less likely to become lost, plus blunt points don't burry. If you get real good with flu flu's only a minor adjustment with regular fletchings and you'll be deadly accurate. When your good and ready, you can experiment with different bows, learn with only one first, then you'll be good. Try to broaden your bows as well, I shoot between mainly a 55# BP-52 from 69'. a 72" 60#hickory self bow with steam bent tips, and a 100# longbow. You'll know when your good and ready when you can draw and release in a single motion and be accurate. That's my experience with trad n' primitive archery anyway. Become a purist, and you'll learn.

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Walking the string feels completely uncomfortable to me.. I cant even shoot 3 fingers under

My bows are hollered for split finger shooting.. I wonder how that affects the option to walk down the string?

 

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I'm just going to agree with Nomad on all things trad

 

seriously, I do think a guy can overthink this stuff. what's that theory about doing something ten thousand times?  I have a anchor point that I use for close shots, then I subconsciously change it a bit when shooting farther...I don't have a clue as to what my system is called, works for me

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I'm just going to agree with Nomad on all things trad

 

seriously, I do think a guy can overthink this stuff. what's that theory about doing something ten thousand times?  I have a anchor point that I use for close shots, then I subconsciously change it a bit when shooting farther...I don't have a clue as to what my system is called, works for me

People tend to overthink everything and then they have no idea what they are actually doing.  Paralysis by analysis

 

If you're changing anchor points, that's called face walking.  instead of adjusting where you're holding the string, you're adjusting where it touches your face.  6 of one, half dozen of the other...

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I use Rick Welch's method not exactly the same but I had good luck with that and I've been using it since I started shooting Trad archery

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face walking. sounds like something you'd get a Korean massage parlor

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When I started shooting back in the late 60's I purchased the Archer's Bible by Fred Bear, very informative with pictures. About 50 yrs later and I still have it in my book case tattered but the original. I also acquired a second copy many years later,  because some things never change.

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Is that before or after the happy ending?

 

depends on how much your willing to pay

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When I started shooting back in the late 60's I purchased the Archer's Bible by Fred Bear, very informative with pictures. About 50 yrs later and I still have it in my book case tattered but the original. I also acquired a second copy many years later,  because some things never change.

 

damn, you're old!! haha  I bought my Archer's Bible about 4 years after I started bowhunting, my father didn't bowhunt, but my two older brothers did, and without any mentors let's just say we should have owned one sooner! that's where I learned that broadheads had to be sharpened! among other vital information. My mother threw my original out, I'm sure she thought it was blasphemous, but I got another one off ebay 

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face walking. sounds like something you'd get a Korean massage parlor

 

 

Well, if you're into having a stinky, wet snail trail left across your face, enjoy.

 

What you do in the privacy of your own bedroom is your business.

 

That is between you and your wallet. :up:

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Any trad guys string walk at all? I'm just starting to get into trad archery and watched this guys video. Its very informative and he mainly talks and breaks down his technique of string walking and using a "25 yard fixed crawl". It is surprisingly accurate and for just starting out I am shooting some pretty solid groups out to 20 yards.  Just curious if anyone else is shooting this technique. I know trad archery is " journey" for everyone.  Around 1:05 he talks specifically about it in a little more detail.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E1vKkSSoNs

Hey Mallard ! When i first started trad many years ago, i tried three under, walking but the best that worked for me in the end was split finger, 100 % instinctively.

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