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  1. Thanks for the question. We highly recommend that users get onXmaps or something similar. If not, we can send you lat/long coordinates or a google maps pin but you'd still be responsible for knowing the property boundaries and staying on the property. If you haven't used onXmaps, it's an awesome, really powerful tool. You can use promo code 'LandTrust' for a 20% discount on their premium features.
  2. I'm a hunter & fisherman and I started the company to scratch my own itch. I booked the first hunt through LandTrust and have booked 4 since then in the last month. My friends are booking hunts through LandTrust. Complete strangers are booking hunts through LandTrust all over the country for elk/deer/antelope/pheasants/ducks & geese/turkeys and giving 5-star ratings of their experiences. If I was not doing it for hunters and fisherman, who would I be doing it for? If I wasn't a hunter & fisherman, I could see what you're getting at.
  3. Yes, I'm working to build a large, profitable company. In order to do that I have to get more people outside hunting and fishing in a way that they value & enjoy. See how one leads to the other? For profit businesses all have to make profit to exist, but they can do so in the pursuit of a larger vision.
  4. Thanks for the comment. As I've addressed in some prior posts, we're definitely still figuring out pricing since we're creating a new market with LandTrust. Time will tell what the market will support as far as pricing but I can say we have sportsmen booking properties all over the country right now. If you have land you should list it, we'd love to have you join our rapidly growing Landowner community.
  5. There are a few properties that you can hunt ducks/geese on currently. Did you check out the following two (click the links)? The first one is a GREAT goose spot on a hill with soybeans and corn just a couple hundred yards of the Delaware. The second one is also just off the river with cut corn fields. Book some hunts! Hartung by the Delaware Heirs Farm
  6. Appreciate the encouragement. You're spot on with what we're trying to do, get more people outside and hunting. You're also right on pricing, the honest truth is we don't know what the right pricing is yet and will only find our way there after lots of bookings. The market will decide and every property will be different with all sorts of factors involved.
  7. Amen. I have a 10wk old daughter, am launching a startup and the sole provider right now for my family. Hunting seems nearly impossible but still trying to sneak out for a morning here and there.
  8. Quick note: day hunts are not necessarily the goal for LandTrust and of the bookings that have happened already most are at least a couple days or longer. The points brought up are valid for hunting whitetail in the east so booking a few days to get the spot figured out would be more ideal than a 1 day hunt. Whereas if you're hunting birds, spot & stalk western hunts for antelope/whitetails/elk/etc. day hunts can & do work just fine. Obviously more days are better to get a spot figured out but we wanted to give the Landowner the most flexibility when listing their land. As I mentioned in my last reply to @BowhunterNJ we do have lots of properties coming onboard that already have stands/feeders/food plots/etc. Definitely great points to address guys. See some thoughts below. Also a good point to note, when you make a booking through LandTrust you get to message with the Landowners and for the bookings we've had happen already a lot of the landowners will give you a call and give you the lay of the land before you come out. Hunter A schedules to hunt on 11/01/19 Hunter A knows where the property is so they can pre-scout with aerial and topo maps (good to add to your site BTW). Most seasoned hunters will probably do this, but others may not have time or experience and therefore may have no idea what they are running into property wise (elevations, thickness, etc). When a hunter books a property, we send them the area & waypoints via onXmaps which also has topos and clearly shows property boundaries. We've also partnered with onXmaps to give our LandTrust users a 20% discount off their premium services like offline maps which turn your phone into a GPS device even without cell service. Also, hunter can message back/forth with landowner with any questions. On the morning of 11/01/19, Hunter A drives to the property. It's dark, how do they know where to park to start their day? As part of the point above, we'll have sent them waypoints of places they can park on the property. Once parked, they get their stuff together but don't have a good idea of exactly where to go or what they'll run into. How do they know where to go in the dark? We can solve for this with trails we mark out in onXmaps, talking to landowners can also help here. Are there any starting points, flagged or tacked out trails to lead them to certain areas? Waypoints via onXmaps How do they know where the property lines are? onXmaps area that we send over which you can see on your phone Is the expectation that on a one day hunt they wait until daybreak? Each landowner can have their own check-in rules and in some cases they may let you come the evening before to see the property and get the lay of the land Once on the property and hunting, if they have any issues (trespasser, property line questions, etc), who do they contact? They can contact us if there's suspected trespassing and we'll handle it with the landowner and local authorities. Property line questions should be answered via onXmaps.
  9. Much appreciated for the thoughtful comment, you definitely summed up what we're trying to go for with LandTrust. Also, we do have outfitters and professional hunter/land managers that are listing with us as well who only allow a certain number of hunts per year/have stands/have feeders and offer lodging/guiding too. To us, LandTrust represents private land access for hunting & fishing trips. That could be a day hunt for pheasant in Kansas, a weeklong DIY elk hunt in Colorado with a cabin, or a fully guided Kentucky trophy whitetail hunt on a professionally managed farm. All of those things represent private land access for hunters and they will all have different price points and expectations associated with them. We will also be getting into longer term bookings as well so hunters could book a property for the whole rifle/bow season, etc. Anyway, that's our goal and we're working hard to achieve it but like everyone else, we may miss the mark sometimes. When we do we hope to hear from our customers so we can address it immediately. That's why I'm in this awesome forum engaging with folks, even some who aren't so positive with us because it's important to hear all sides of it so we can be successful with our endeavor.
  10. That's good feedback. Although some properties allow you to book as little as 1 day, you can also book much longer periods. It sounds like you're more interested in trophy spots, which LandTrust also has. It's all about how the Landowner wants to manage their land and what types of hunts sportsmen want. You can check out a couple trophy listings here: https://www.landtrust.com/l/pond-river-mountain-farm/5d9f8b26-3016-4240-9d2d-69dc9f001c62 https://www.landtrust.com/l/treys-deer-land/5d8fdb36-a09b-431c-a8ef-a4e43d2c04c3 https://www.landtrust.com/l/sullivan-brothers/5d51ae1b-88be-400e-a7c6-88bf101978f5 We'll eventually have listings that serve everyone from the guy chasing the buck of his dreams to someone just wanting to get outside this weekend with their kid. Not everyone has the same goals for hunting.
  11. Thanks for the comment. Yes, we're building a for-profit business, no secrets there. By opening up private lands to be booked for hunting trips rather than keeping them in expensive, upfront annual leases, we're enabling more hunters (who are willing to pay) to hunt private lands that they'd have not been able to before because of those large annual lease costs. I don't believe I'm doing anyone a favor, that was not my intent to come off that way. I'm working to create an efficient marketplace where willing buyer (hunter) & willing seller (landowner) can connect and exchange value in a simple, safe, secure manner. As with any free market enterprise, it's completely up to you to choose whether you participate or not. Just like you may have chosen to do a traditional annul leases or not. If you were to knock on a LandTrust landowner door and they wanted to let you hunt for free, they could simply block the calendar off for the dates they were going to let you hunt. It's their land, they do whatever they want with it. They are not under any contract with LandTrust.
  12. Appreciate the comment. Btw- we're all for public land and the different public access programs on private lands, we're simply filling in the space around that with landowners who don't participate in those programs. We're simply trying to make it easier for more people to get out and hunt.
  13. Leasing is super expensive, I can't afford to slap down thousands of dollars just for a hunting spot. That's precisely why we're building LandTrust. Although a lot of us can't afford a $5-$10k+ annual hunting lease, we can afford to pay hundreds of dollars to hunt for a week somewhere. Essentially we're helping to remove the upfront annual cost of hunting private land leases and make it more of a 'pay-as-you-go' model which opens it to many more of us. I understand not all of us, but many more. I just hunted an 18k+ acre ranch and paid $100 for me and a buddy to hunt pheasant on opening morning. It was pretty cool and something I would have never had the opportunity to do without LandTrust.
  14. Hunting private land has absolutely changed from a generation ago and as a company that's been alive for ~2 weeks, I don't believe we're responsible for that change. Nor would I even build it if we were all getting private land hunting access whenever we wanted. We're building LandTrust precisely because it's changed and we're trying to make it easier to connect the dots to hunt private land for those who want to pay for the opportunity. If you don't there's always public, which I hunt often too. I've been 'door knocking' (phone/text/email/physically) and having conversations with literally hundreds and hundreds of landowners from across the country which have led me here. If these weren't the things I was hearing from them, it would be a mistake to build a business around it. I too thought that they wouldn't want to text/email/mess around with the internet but you'd be surprised at how tech savvy they are and how many times I hear a 65yr old+ farmer say, 'my wife has been doing Airbnb for our place...' and love the idea. Also, a funny sidenote is the landowner in NJ who's listed his properties is in his mid-30's and left his old job to come back and farm with his dad.
  15. Thanks for the feedback. Generally what we've found over the past few months of talking to hundreds of landowners in 30+ states is that the landowners who want to let anyone come hunt their land will continue to do so, and we're all for that. We want more access for hunting and fishing, not less. The landowners that sign up for LandTrust, generally speaking, are landowners who are not allowing access because knocking on doors is not something they want to deal with or something they've been burned with in the past. It's important to keep in mind that a lot of these landowners are hardworking farmers, ranchers and otherwise and although you knocking on their door seems like a quick interaction to you, during hunting season that can happen 5x/day starting before the sunrises, which is very disruptive. Additionally, a lot of those same landowners aren't wealthy, they're working to make ends meet. 'Land rich & cash poor' is the saying. So LandTrust offers them a simple, safe, easy way to help monetize their most valuable asset, their land, to help pay for things like taxes, equipment, improvements, etc. To that point, we should want landowners to be able to maintain their farms, ranches, and undeveloped land because if they can't make ends meet, subdivisions begin creeping in and that land will never be hunted again by anyone. We hope that hunters understand our goal is to open more access to more hunters. Yes, that access will be paid for because there are costs associated with allowing anyone to access land whether it be time or other resources and because helping landowners pay for maintaining their land and the wildlife we all enjoy on it is a good thing for the longevity of hunting & fishing.
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