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Interesting Utah study.  I think jerseys landscape is quite different than Utah and I don’t know if this study is representative to jersey.  

There should be a nationwide 365 day 24 hours a day season on these toothy bastuds!!  I pay big money to hunt deer , turkey, small game in jersey to fill the freezer and that license/permit money pays Division staff that would rather limit the take on coyotes while they eat the game I’m paying to pursue …. Seems a bit ass backwards to me. 
 

https://www.earth.com/news/hunting-coyotes-may-be-fueling-their-population-growth/

 

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43 minutes ago, Jcol6268 said:

I read a similar study some years ago when I was really into trying to hunt these critters that took place in the East. I want to say it was out of PA. 

I can understand the theory of this study as stated below and sounds reasonable that it could be true, if so it’s all the more reason to have year round seasons and wipe out dens, pups, etc and make small game hunting/turkey/deer hunting great again!

 

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I read about this phenomenon several times over the years. I just read this latest study. You know what they are missing? The actual coyote harvest numbers. This study just says the coyote population isn't reduced in areas where there are hunting "regulations" for coyotes. But no where did it say "when the numbers of killed yotes are higher, the population increases". So I'm not convinced what these studies say is true. 

Think about it... NJ has liberal yote hunting regulations between November and March (e g. unlimited limits, incidental harvest while deer hunting, night hunting) .. but how many yotes are actually harvested? I can say I've hunted yotes sporadically for years, and haven't killed a single one. I know the yote harvest numbers in NJ are low. So, yeah, the hunting regulations are liberal, but that doesn't mean many yotes are harvested. Why think the population will be reduced just because hunting regulations are liberal? If not a lot of people are actually harvesting a lot of yotes, it doesn't matter that we have liberal hunting regulations - the population is going to increase.

For a study like this to make sense, they need to look at the number of yotes actually harvested and compare that to the population. They can't just say "the hunting regs are liberal" because that doesn't necessarily mean enough yotes are harvested to make a difference.

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Obvious the article is only taking pieces of the actual study... but right off the bat, I don't agree that if you take one breeding coyote from a territory it will be replaced by 2-3 other coyotes who will breed more. That's simply not how it works.   There are an incredible amount of variables that impact these studies.  For instance, in Utah where the state runs a bounty program on coyotes, it is well know by the folks that live out there, that the bounty has made it almost impossible to be effective calling coyotes because the of the hunting pressure added by the $50 bounty.  One thing is for certain, the only thing that truly affects the re-population rate of coyotes is how well the coyote eats... which is directly affected by population.  If a breeding coyote is in an area with less coyotes and has more access to food, it will produce larger litters.  If food is limited due to competition or any other factor, the litter size will be smaller.  Regardless of hunting pressure, a breeding female coyote can only come into heat once a year and can only produce one litter and typically it is only the dominant pair in an area that will breed and reproduce.  If anyone is interested, there is a great Foxpro podcast with Torry Cook of MFK game calls dispelling a lot of the myths associated with coyotes and their reproduction rates.

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I see tons of tracks in the snow where I hunt. I will try to get out this year and get one for the local coyote contest. If the ESU study is correct 50% of fawns are eaten by bear and then another percentage is eaten by coyotes. So taking out a few bear and coyotes may improve the deer numbers. 

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I had noticed years ago when my hunting buddy was trapping he’d sometimes trap coyotes. At first there were not many around. The more he set his snares for them the more there were. It was obvious,  to me, I thought it was just coincidental. However I observed this first hand. Like it was an invitation for more, more coyotes and foxes. Then he died the area became inundated with coyotes. Coincidence? Or just nature changing?  Hmmmmm? 

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Mange is the great equalizer for canines. 

I spent most of my money on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.

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Joe Rogan has a guy, Flores, hippie, on his podcast once in awhile that claims the female coyote will start a howling session and when some of the pack members don’t respond, in essence taking roll call, then she will produce more eggs during the mating season and therefore increase pack size. Sounds like total anti hunter bs to me 

without me, my rifle is nothing

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When I was involved with the coyote telemetry study, One of the coyotes from warren county was killed by goose hunters 50 miles southwest of Philidelphia.

They constantly search for and mark scent posts . This tells them how many and which coyotes are in the area.

Low numbers invite neihbors

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1 hour ago, TDietz said:

Joe Rogan has a guy, Flores, hippie, on his podcast once in awhile that claims the female coyote will start a howling session and when some of the pack members don’t respond, in essence taking roll call, then she will produce more eggs during the mating season and therefore increase pack size. Sounds like total anti hunter bs to me 

This is one of the topics that come up on the podcast... total bs.  They will howl to see if anyone is home on a neighboring property to add to their own territory.  The idea that a female coyote can check populations based on howling and adjust how many eggs she fertilizes is insane lol

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