nmc02 Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 A few questioned if this was possible...it is mostly dependent on the shooter. Many guns are capable. There are many boutique gun companies out there. Here are a few: https://www.mcwhorterrifles.com/muzzleloaders/ https://fiercearms.com/carbon-mz/ https://arrowheadrifles.com/arrowhead-muzzleloader/ https://www.nielsoncustomrifles.com/muzzleloaders http://badbullmuzzleloaders.com/ https://procisionarms.com/product/dead-fire-series-long-range-muzzleloader/ Rjtfd and electric10162 2
Pathman Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 It’s likely a combination of both, however, you can’t have one without the other, otherwise you’ll never realize the potential of the firearm. That being said, two of my cousins bought Fierce muzzys a few years ago. Gorgeous guns, fit and finish was incredible, but it was like a science project to load the damn things! They shot well, but like most guys, we only shot them out to 200, so they paid close to $5K (with all the bells and whistles) had no idea how they actually shot at long range, and it took a ridicules amount of time to load them. And for what, to maybe take a long range shot once every few years, maybe? Id say take the muzzy you’re comfortable with that has a solid reputation, and actually shoot it at distance, and you’ll then know how far you, and the firearm, can realistically shoot without question.
MGHunter66 Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 Sure with smokeless powder anything is achievable because you’re simply eliminating the case per se’. May be loaded by muzzle but are far cry from what muzzleloader actually is nmc02 1 AWM
Costam07 Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 Friend of mine in Ohio has a omega as well as knight mountaineer had them both shooting out to 400 yrds
Tarhunt Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 I have a Savage ML2 that I'm thinking of converting to smokeless and take it out to Montana for Mule deer. "The Nation Which Forgets Its Defenders, Will Itself Be Forgotten".
Booner Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 https://www.woodmanarms.com/shop/patriot-g3-45-caliber-muzzleloader-150?category=13#attr=117,118,110,112 Add this to the list. But it's affordable. The .40cal version is bad ass. Not NJ legal but a heck of a shooter. You can take an omega action and put a barrel on it and have a great affordable versatile muzzy. nmc02 1 LET EM GO SO HE CAN GROW
Booner Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 2 minutes ago, Tarhunt said: I have a Savage ML2 that I'm thinking of converting to smokeless and take it out to Montana for Mule deer. It's already smokeless. I've owned 3 or 4. Only shot smokeless. shoot2kill8 1 LET EM GO SO HE CAN GROW
BowhunterNJ Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 I didn't see you mention Ultimate Firearms muzzleloader: https://ultimatefirearms.com/ They claim confirmed kills at 600 yards. nmc02 1
electric10162 Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 And some bitch about crossbows MGHunter66 and nmc02 2
Tarhunt Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 12 minutes ago, Booner said: It's already smokeless. I've owned 3 or 4. Only shot smokeless. Sorry. I meant changing barrels and doing a conversion. "The Nation Which Forgets Its Defenders, Will Itself Be Forgotten".
thefirstndsecond Posted December 31, 2024 Posted December 31, 2024 McWorter I have shot, used, and my friends have them. Unbelievable with smokeless. Highly accurate and deadly. Like shooting a rifle. Only PIA are the bullets and buying from manufacturers, and the primer set up. But worth it. nmc02 1 FPC - "Without either the first or second amendment, we would have no liberty; the first allows us to find out what's happening, the second allows us to do something about it! The second will be taken away first, followed by the first and then the rest of our freedoms." - Andrew Ford
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