(A843/S1145) Mandatory Confiscation of Firearms within 30 days of death to law enforcement by heirs unless they possess FPIC

[hostak126]

 

[tuny]

Lots of luck with that 
I'll make sure I give mine to my kids long before that happens.

[Sako76]

That’s some real bullchit!

[mazzgolf]

Uh.. WTH.. this is more than that. They are making all FID cards expire after FOUR years... even those of us that have had ours for decades. No grandfather clause!

https://legiscan.com/NJ/text/A843/2024

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    A firearms purchaser identification card issued or renewed after the effective date of P.L.    , c.    (pending before the Legislature as this bill) shall [be valid until such time as] expire during the fourth calendar year following its date of issuance and on the same calendar day as the person's date of birth. 

      A firearms purchaser identification card issued prior to the effective date of P.L.    , c.    (pending before the Legislature as this bill) shall expire during the fourth calendar year following the effective date of P.L.    , c.    (pending before the Legislature as this bill) and on the same calendar day as the person's date of birth. 

      If the date of birth of the firearms purchaser identification card holder does not correspond to a calendar day of the fourth calendar year, the card shall expire on the last day of the birth month of the card holder. 

      A firearms purchaser identification card issued pursuant to this section may be renewed upon filing of a renewal application and payment of the required fee, provided that the holder is not subject to any of the disabilities set forth in subsection c. of this section and complies with all other applicable requirements as set forth in statute and regulation.

[PattyThomboy]

Slowly, ever so slowly we are loosing our gun rights. We are loosing all of our rights and freedoms.   Those freedoms that our country men and women fought and died for, who are still fighting and dying to this day. We just recognized our fallen heroes on this past Memorial Day. What would they say if they could speak from the grave? 
Guns are not the problem, irrational and unstable people are, when they hold them accountable for their actions, then we can have a discussion about how we defend ourselves against them. Punish those who deserve the consequences for their actions. Do not punish us, law abiding citizens, Who are conscientious, who are steady and solid people. 
who respect our privileges and our freedoms. 
it’s a farce, smoke and mirrors to their clear agenda . Not a conspiracy, just making an observation. 🪶

[Sako76]

FID cards are also bullchit!  Buy a gun, do the NICS and done!  Why are proofed twice?

[hostak126]

I thought about this a little and here's my analysis. Again we are being punished by the state for our win in with Bruen. The state is also trying to make it unaffordable as possible to strip us of our God given Right being the 2nd Amendment. 

What is actually happening is the state is making all of this so unaffordable it's giving us potential plaintiffs so we can bring these lawsuits before the courts and have them found Unconstitutional. The FOID cards will fall, We aren't running the Daytona 500, we're running the 24 Hours of LeMans. Unfortunately it's going to take time.

[Bucksnbows]

6 minutes ago, hostak126 said:

I thought about this a little and here's my analysis. Again we are being punished by the state for our win in with Bruen. The state is also trying to make it unaffordable as possible to strip us of our God given Right being the 2nd Amendment. 

What is actually happening is the state is making all of this so unaffordable it's giving us potential plaintiffs so we can bring these lawsuits before the courts and have them found Unconstitutional. The FOID cards will fall, We aren't running the Daytona 500, we're running the 24 Hours of LeMans. Unfortunately it's going to take time.

I see it the same way. We are not “losing” gun rights, instead we are slowly regaining them due to cases like Heller and Bruen. But it is taking a frustrating amount of time to regain those rights. 

[vdep217]

46 minutes ago, Bucksnbows said:

I see it the same way. We are not “losing” gun rights, instead we are slowly regaining them due to cases like Heller and Bruen. But it is taking a frustrating amount of time to regain those rights. 

Exactly.  Wich is why I've been saying everyone should get a carry permit to boost our known rank.  The state already published the drop in crime with the corelation of the start of nj carry.  I know it's a pain but it will help

[mazzgolf]

4 minutes ago, vdep217 said:

Exactly.  Wich is why I've been saying everyone should get a carry permit to boost our known rank.  The state already published the drop in crime with the corelation of the start of nj carry.  I know it's a pain but it will help

200 dollars every 2 years is steep though... add in the cost of the "training" they require and all the other ticky-tack fees, how much does it cost to get a carry license in NJ?

I'm curious, typically how long does it take (from the time you submit the application to the time you have the permit in hand? including "training" time, fingerprinting, etc)?

I was going to wait for some of these lawsuits to settle things down and hopefully reduce the cost.

[Silkcitymedic]

The cost of a fid and ccw permit in NJ is tantamount to a poll tax and obscenely overpriced. In PA you pay the $ 20 and have a permit in a few days for ccw. This should be the next case.

[vdep217]

6 minutes ago, mazzgolf said:

200 dollars every 2 years is steep though... add in the cost of the "training" they require and all the other ticky-tack fees, how much does it cost to get a carry license in NJ?

I'm curious, typically how long does it take (from the time you submit the application to the time you have the permit in hand? including "training" time, fingerprinting, etc)?

I was going to wait for some of these lawsuits to settle things down and hopefully reduce the cost.

I did it when it first started and took 6 months.  If you are proficient classes can be found under 100.  The point is the more that do it the better we will fare in the long run.  I have introduced some that were non shooters 2 years ago to getting their permits to carry recently.   

Just like hunting we need to focus getting the truth to those on the fence about fire arms.  Show them saftey and responsibilities of owning fire arms and how fun shooting sports can be.

I know towns that are 3 weeks out for permits.   I look at it this way say 400 to get it now. That's 1 maybe 2 Friday nights at the bar.

[Merkel]

30 minutes ago, vdep217 said:

Exactly.  Wich is why I've been saying everyone should get a carry permit to boost our known rank.  The state already published the drop in crime with the corelation of the start of nj carry.  I know it's a pain but it will help

I haven’t seen the published data. Do you have the link handy? 

[mazzgolf]

1 hour ago, vdep217 said:

 I look at it this way say 400 to get it now. That's 1 maybe 2 Friday nights at the bar.

What do you people buy at bars? Dayem LOL... I don't go to bars... but I used to think golf was expensive. 200+ for a evening in a bar? Golf isn't so bad, I guess  

[vdep217]

5 minutes ago, mazzgolf said:

What do you people buy at bars? Dayem LOL... I don't go to bars... but I used to think golf was expensive. 200+ for a evening in a bar? Golf isn't so bad, I guess  

You figure food for 2 plus drinks 200 is on the lower end