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Buds has the CZ 527 in .223 for the same price as the Rem700's. CZ has a Walnut stock. I would stay away from any Remingtons made after 1990'. I would run away from any made in the last 5 years lol. Hopefully Remington will get it's head out of it's behind soon. But until then I won't buy one.

 

Shipped to Soloman's Shooting Supply in Farmingdale will cost you $10.00 NICS fee and $15.00 transfer fee. Ships free.

 

 

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/97563/CZ-USA+CZ527+American+223+1%3A9+WALNUT

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What happened to Remington?

do you mean as part of this thread or their lack of quality in general?  the last remington product i bought was an 11-87 super mag.  that shotgun would break every other time i took it hunting.  i didn't have it long.  prior to that i had a couple of bolt action model 700's that would shoot with any rifle.  the last was a model 700 classic in 300 weatherby magnum that would group under 1" all day long with whatever ammo i put into it.  when ammo got to $70 and up for a box, i sold it.  as far as quality goes, i still think the 700 is ok, i just don't own any.  right now i have a post 64 winchester model 70 in 270 and i just picked up a mossberg patriot in 30-06.  interesting story about the patriot.  i was on the fence about buying it so i googled it and they had all positive reviews so i took it home.  when i got it to the range this rifle would not group worth a damn.  i tried different ammo, bullet weights, etc.  no good.  then my buddy noticed that the holes in the target were oblong and there was lead bleeding on the paper.  looking at the rifling we noticed that it was too deep and sharp.  i took the rifle home and ran lapping compound through it and alternated blue magic with brass brushes for hours until it was nice and smooth.  this rifle is a nice shooter now.  trigger could be better but is acceptable.  i got this at the last Wind Gap gun show btw.

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do you mean as part of this thread or their lack of quality in general?  the last remington product i bought was an 11-87 super mag.  that shotgun would break every other time i took it hunting.  i didn't have it long.  prior to that i had a couple of bolt action model 700's that would shoot with any rifle.  the last was a model 700 classic in 300 weatherby magnum that would group under 1" all day long with whatever ammo i put into it.  when ammo got to $70 and up for a box, i sold it.  as far as quality goes, i still think the 700 is ok, i just don't own any.  right now i have a post 64 winchester model 70 in 270 and i just picked up a mossberg patriot in 30-06.  interesting story about the patriot.  i was on the fence about buying it so i googled it and they had all positive reviews so i took it home.  when i got it to the range this rifle would not group worth a damn.  i tried different ammo, bullet weights, etc.  no good.  then my buddy noticed that the holes in the target were oblong and there was lead bleeding on the paper.  looking at the rifling we noticed that it was too deep and sharp.  i took the rifle home and ran lapping compound through it and alternated blue magic with brass brushes for hours until it was nice and smooth.  this rifle is a nice shooter now.  trigger could be better but is acceptable.  i got this at the last Wind Gap gun show btw.

Mainly around Stevo's comments above, sounded like Remington went down the tubes in quality.

 

I only have one Remington rifle in 30-06, and it's an old timer...my dad's from when he was younger, probably made in the 1960s or 1970s I'd imagine.

I rarely gun hunt outside of NJ, but took it on a rifle hunt in Wyoming and it did great! :up:

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Here's a little synopsis of that time with the 30-06 I wrote awhile back:

 

Fort Dix is reasonably priced and a nice range. The rifle range to the bank is 246 yards per my range finder I believe, last time I checked.

 

I sighted in my dad's old 30-06 for my first high powered rifle hunt ever, out in Wyoming 2 seasons ago. That rifle killed two mulies, one I got and one a friend got out there.

 

His gun was all over the place, he emptied his clip at a buck, ugly, hit it in the wrong places, he ran out of bullets, couldn't find more, I finally handed him my gun and he put the buck down in one shot right into the boiler. I don't mess around with sighting my guns in!

 

My buck was a pretty funny story, cuz the same guy was watching the buck through his binos when I shot and as soon as I shot, he instantly yelled "OH HE'S DEAD!" seeing exactly where I hit him. Buck went down in about 50 yards. Not the biggest of mulies, but he's my first and I held out until the 11th hour of the last day to get him...actually passed on a bigger one the day before. Outfitter was great, guides were awesome, ton of animals but no real monsters seen.

 

Here's a 6 shot group at 200 yards from the bench at Fort Dix, not sure what happened with the floater, bad load or I flinched. I stuck the target on upside down, so the perspective is correct! :)

 

Interestingly, I got a couple more boxes with the same Load Number but they consistently shot a little lower about 1"@100 yards. Guess that's why some guys reload.

 

Manufacturer: Federal

Load Number: P3006D

Load Type: Premium Vital Shok

Caliber: 30-06 Springfield (7.62x63mm)

Grain: 165 grain

Bullet Style: Sierra Gameking BTSP

 

30-06_federalsierragamekingbtsp_165grain_smaller.jpg

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The new Remington's are not what they used to be. Fishman had an 870 out Goose hunting with us last week that would jam on every shot. Another friend got a M7 in .243 that was all over the paper no matter what he tried. The fit on the gun to the stock was terrible also. I hate to say it but Remmy's aint what they used to be.

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I have an 11-87 from 1999 that is a powerhouse.  When they went to the 3.5" model it was a dud, terrible gun.  I'd put my 11-87 up against any other gun (any excuse to go to the range...).

 

I also recently picked up a new 700 XCR II in .30-06.  Tack driver.  Groups like Matt's .30-06 shooting CoreLokt in 180 grain.

 

So I've had a very positive experience with Remington recently but acknowledge that their 3.5" magnum shotguns are less than perfect.

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Here is what happen to Remington. A company called Freedom Group now owns it among Marlin,barnes and many other gun manufacturers. Large take-over corporations look a bottom line profits. The old guard at Remington are long gone.

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