The best shot placement information I've ever seen.

[Matty]

Ok, I'm sure most of you remember Brian Johnson from Revolution Taxidermy, or at least his video where he blows up the lungs of a roadkill doe. Pretty eye opening video on how big the lungs are when expanded and finally showed firsthand there is no "void".

 

Well he's been working on perfectly recreating the vitals of a deer to be anatomically correct. I think he's done something really amazing here and it's the most in depth discussion on deer vitals and shot placement that I've ever seen. 

 

I like what he's doing so much, I went through and found all of his videos on the subject and put them in order for everyone. 

 

Seriously, if you hunt deer, you should watch all of these videos. You may know most of it, but I guarantee everyone learns something. 

 

He thinks the majority of hunters aim a little too far forward and I agree. Aiming back a bit gives you more room for error. Now obviously he wants to sell his new targets, but he is offering so much good info, it's well worth watching. I honestly believe his main objective is to better us as hunters and help people wound less deer. So watch them when you have a chance.

 

 

Deer Anatomy:

 

Center Kill:

 

Single Circle:

 

Tri-Circle:

 

Geometric Shot Placement:

 

 

Internal Bullseye:

 

 

Killer Scope:

 

 

 

 

Blowing up lungs on roadkill doe if you've never seen it:

 

[Matty]

Not sure why some videos are imbedded and others not. 
 
 

[Matty]

Forgot to add this one. This is a necropsy of a real deer and shows everything in great depth.

 

 

[jerseyhunter]

He's been a  dedicated teacher for hunters  since his first video.  

[buckfever1974]

I appreciate u taking the time to put these online. I'm going to watch them with my daughters. Cheers.

[BowhunterNJ]

I fixed the links, for some reason however you posted it they got converted to URL.

I see Tapatalk does this, but if you post via a browser it gets converted and embedded as a video.

[Rusty]

 I think most people aim too far back.

 

I agree.  I like to go straight up the leg on a broadside shot and for a quartering away shot I shoot in line with the opposite front leg.

[Rusty]

Jack's pics again.

 

 

 

 

[Rusty]

.  .  .  .  and finally showed firsthand there is no "void". 

 

 

 

[Matty]

Did you guys actually watch the entirety of the videos?

 

Hard to argue with the necropsy results.

 

Are you guys watching him blow up the lungs?  If you only have time for one video, watch the necropsy which is the last video I posted. I have done the same thing myself and it looks the same. Except I've never blown up the lungs.
 

In a gut pile the lungs look tiny, I agree. However, when blown up to their normal size....they are as large as the ones in his target. He explains how the further back in the lungs you go, the thinner they get, so you get less blood loss. 

 

He also agrees, you get in the "magic triangle" and the deer is dead fast (which is where you guys are aiming)....however, it leaves less room for error. Come back just two inches and you have more room for error. 

 

I hope you guys actually watched all the videos before dismissing it.

[hammer4reel]

Those videos are a great teaching aid .

It does many things showing how different angles give you the actual entrance and exit channels.

 

For many it might show how going too high in a tree really cuts down on your chances of making a wound channel through the best areas of the vitals, especially on close deer.

 

But his aiming methods could be simplified as he did in the scope method showing the plumb bob line.

 

IF you aim for the exit as though you were shooting a tube through the center of the vitals it does all he is saying in a simpler method.

as long as you know looking at the deer where that area is . knowing to aim for the exit to shoot through that core area is all you need to know.

It takes in to account for all the different body angles , as well as the heights of the treestands etc..

 

i targets are a great teaching tool to show that in great detail, as has been done before on a smaller scale using push pins at the hunter ed classes.

This version is a more lifelike one , but NOT a new method by any form.

as those push pin lifelike models ( the size of a doll) were used even in the early 70's when I took my archery test.

 

what would be really cool is that the 3d shoots went to scoring on the offside dots, instead of the nearside aiming dots.

That would really step up the game to a realistic level that would definetly seperate some of the great dot shooters in the game taking to a higher level of realism 

Edited January 4, 2016 by hammer4reel

[BowhunterNJ]

You can't post photos from photobucket?

With the IMG tags?

Any kind of error?

 

[img="http://www.photobucket/somealbum/somepicture.jpg"]

[BowhunterNJ]

Hmmm, can you post it up in between CODE tags, it will show exactly how it's entered.

Like this [.code]your image path[./code] without the "."s

[BowhunterNJ]

OK I think the difference is in the extension. It has to be an image extension.

 

Correct:

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Incorrect and will return the error you saw:

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I just fixed yours from the following (which could have just gotten messed up in the parsing during the post, might not be how you entered it initially):

 

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To:

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[Matty]

Hammer, I agree. It's not new and if you think about aiming through the center of the vitals, that's basically what aiming at the off leg does. Except the off leg can be forward or back. That probably isn't news to any experienced archery hunter. Very basic info. Good for beginners though.

 

I thought that some of the more experienced guys might take something away from parts of the anatomy lessons. Brian actually cast organs and bones to come up with the most anatomically correct recreation of a whitetails skeleton, arteries, organs, etc...Has anyone else done this? He left nothing to guesswork. He was extremely detailed to ensure accuracy.

 

I've done necropsies before too, but I doubt any of us have put the time into this that Brian has.

 

That old picture of the vitals is inaccurate and Brian proves it during the videos. One reason is they have to separate the esophagus and trachea from the keel of the C6. There are also voids drawn in that don't exist on a real deer.

 

I'm not going to argue this with anyone, because I realize everyone has their way of doing things, and I know it's pretty much impossible to change peoples minds. 

 

The videos are there for those that want to watch. 

 

Good luck!