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I have had the best luck with grunts over bleats. It really depends on the individual deer and its mood. I shot one Halloween that was fired up rubbing trees and kicking scrapes.Grunted to him and he came in on a string. Grunt only loud enough for them to hear it and dont over do it. You need to learn when they are not interested there is nothing you can do. Over doing it only gives away your stand location

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Haha the buck i heard grunting turned out to be a spike hes oassingvthrough I grunted to him and he paid no mind.

 

What did i learn from this? That I still suck at calling deer.

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Haha the buck i heard grunting turned out to be a spike hes oassingvthrough I grunted to him and he paid no mind.

 

What did i learn from this? That I still suck at calling deer.

You can be the best caller in the world and sometimes they just don't want anything to do with it.
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If I hear a buck grunt, I'm going to do some kind of calling. Usually just a grunt.

 

The day that Len shot his buck on the wounded warrior hunt, we heard grunting and chasing so I did some light calling. The buck came in about 40 minutes later. I can't say he came to the calls for sure though. He came to drink water for sure...My point is it won't hurt.

 

Like MZW said though, calling can be hit or miss. Depends on their mood.

 

I have had good success with bleats too. One of the biggest bucks I ever shot (someone stole it before I could recover it) came in on a string to estrous bleats. I've heard a number of real does making desperate estrous bleats though, so I have a good idea of the cadence and subtle nuances that make it work well. I have always "tuned" my calls to make them sound more accurate too.

 

 

I know a lot of people don't like "blind-calling" but I've had quite a bit of success with it.

 

A few things that I believe are key's to why it works well for me.

 

- The minimum amount of time I wait between calling is about an hour. If it's really thick, I'll wait longer because a lot of bucks slip in very cautiously a while after you call.

 

- Once I blind call in a spot, I'm done calling there for the season. (Within like 300 yards at least) 

 

- I make sure there is a "thick" spot or terrain feature that makes them have to come within range to investigate. Or I use a decoy. Otherwise they hang up and look for the deer they heard. If it's too open and they can't see deer, they usually leave, sometimes alert. 

 

- I "escalate" my calling scenario and try to picture it as a "play". I start off with the estrous doe looking for love. Very soft calls in case anything is close. Five or so minutes later I might throw out a few grunts. Maybe a snort wheeze. 10 minutes later I might snort wheeze and then rattle/grunt. Once that's all done, I'm done calling. Check the time and wait at least an hour, usually more. I have seen a lot of bucks respond an hour or more later, but they are definitely coming in to investigate the calling, just judging by their behavior.

 

I think that's about it. It definitely has worked well for me over the years. 

“I have always tempered my killing with respect for the game pursued. I see the animal not only as a target, but as a living creature with more freedom than I will ever have. I take that life if I can, with regret as well as joy, and with the sure knowledge that nature’s way of fang and claw and starvation are a far crueler fate than I bestow.” – Fred Bear

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Has anyone ever had good succes with a bleat?  I dont even carry one anymore.

i dont carry one either. never had anything respond to it. i only carry a grunt call and rattle bag. seems to work out for me in past years. this year was has been horrible for me, at least with antlered deer. 

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If I hear a buck grunt, I'm going to do some kind of calling. Usually just a grunt.

 

The day that Len shot his buck on the wounded warrior hunt, we heard grunting and chasing so I did some light calling. The buck came in about 40 minutes later. I can't say he came to the calls for sure though. He came to drink water for sure...My point is it won't hurt.

 

Like MZW said though, calling can be hit or miss. Depends on their mood.

 

I have had good success with bleats too. One of the biggest bucks I ever shot (someone stole it before I could recover it) came in on a string to estrous bleats. I've heard a number of real does making desperate estrous bleats though, so I have a good idea of the cadence and subtle nuances that make it work well. I have always "tuned" my calls to make them sound more accurate too.

 

 

I know a lot of people don't like "blind-calling" but I've had quite a bit of success with it.

 

A few things that I believe are key's to why it works well for me.

 

- The minimum amount of time I wait between calling is about an hour. If it's really thick, I'll wait longer because a lot of bucks slip in very cautiously a while after you call.

 

- Once I blind call in a spot, I'm done calling there for the season. (Within like 300 yards at least) 

 

- I make sure there is a "thick" spot or terrain feature that makes them have to come within range to investigate. Or I use a decoy. Otherwise they hang up and look for the deer they heard. If it's too open and they can't see deer, they usually leave, sometimes alert. 

 

- I "escalate" my calling scenario and try to picture it as a "play". I start off with the estrous doe looking for love. Very soft calls in case anything is close. Five or so minutes later I might throw out a few grunts. Maybe a snort wheeze. 10 minutes later I might snort wheeze and then rattle/grunt. Once that's all done, I'm done calling. Check the time and wait at least an hour, usually more. I have seen a lot of bucks respond an hour or more later, but they are definitely coming in to investigate the calling, just judging by their behavior.

 

I think that's about it. It definitely has worked well for me over the years.

 

That is awesome. One day I'll get the hang of it. Thanks for this!

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If using a bleat can it should be short in duration,as a long bleat is a warning to them it seems.I have had them work but not as good as a light grunt,more like a clicking sound.

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