TURKEY PERMITS A,B,C,D,E weeks picked up on line just now.

[bushden]

I managed to get every week I wanted in my zone !

[BowhunterNJ]

Wow what zone?  My friend tried to get 14E and it was sold out by 10:01

[archer36]

Looks like interest in Turkey Hunting is declining. 

[Rjtfd]

I got B, C, and D in mine. C and D were OTC. I should’ve tried for A but all good. 3 weeks to hunt them. 

[Merkel]

If I’m not mistaken there have been left over permits for a couple of years now except for the hot zones. 

[bushden]

10 minutes ago, BowhunterNJ said:

Wow what zone?  My friend tried to get 14E and it was sold out by 10:01

11

[Bonefreak]

Wow!!  14 had more than normal OTC left….must be a reflection of what I’m seeing….or lack there of …in the fields….no flocks like past years!!  I still got all weeks for 14…but there is definitely less flocks. 
 

Also got 12 C & D as backups but very little public land in 12. 
 

Good luck n have a safe season!!

[DBuck]

I picked up 4A and 8A, Already had  9E and 8E  from the original lottery. Was able to get my buddy an 8E.

 

[DBuck]

19 minutes ago, Merkel said:

If I’m not mistaken there have been left over permits for a couple of years now except for the hot zones. 

 

27 minutes ago, archer36 said:

Looks like interest in Turkey Hunting is declining. 

That's because there's less turkeys around. If they don't figure it out soon, we won't have any left to hunt. 

[vdep217]

3 minutes ago, DBuck said:

 

That's because there's less turkeys around. If they don't figure it out soon, we won't have any left to hunt. 

Declining or stableizing.  

[DBuck]

1 minute ago, vdep217 said:

Declining or stableizing.  

Definitely declining, and it's not just NJ. I listen to a bunch of different turkey hunting podcasts and they're all saying the same thing, no matter what state their talking about.

[mazzgolf]

I geek out -- I have tracked the leftover permits available for the first OTC day for the past 3 years (so I can figure out the trends and know which are the hot zones/periods so I can know which 3 permits I should buy first at 10:00, then determine which I should buy in my second fast-finger round at 10:01 -- I don't fool around with this stuff  ... some of my zones/periods literally sell out in the first couple minutes).

I concentrate on the south zones. This year there was, in general, slightly more left than the past 2 years. The pandemic effect is lessening, people going to back to work now, I think.

But it wasn't drastic. And one zone, 16, is getting more interest. I don't know if the quotas have changed (that would affect things).

Here's the difference between what was available first OTC day this year compared  to 2021 which was the first season sales that really got affected by the pandemic - by then is when many people were remotely working and had more time to turkey hunt:

(so, for example, you can see this year there were 4 less permits available OTC in 16B than in 2021, 23 less for 16C and 36 less for 16D, but more available for A and E!)

BTW: for the past 3 years, there wasn't a zone that was sold out after the lottery - every zone had at least a few permits available OTC... but some you need fast fingers because some would sell out within minutes. Don't expect to go to a license agent and be able to get those - by the time the guy at the machine finished typing in your CID number, they'd be gone).

Here's the year-over-year difference (the amount of permits we had available OTC this year compared to last year, virtually every zone had  more permits available this year):

 

[DBuck]

6 minutes ago, mazzgolf said:

I geek out -- I have tracked the leftover permits available for the first OTC day for the past 3 years (so I can figure out the trends and know which are the hot zones/periods so I can know which 3 permits I should buy first at 10:00, then determine which I should buy in my second fast-finger round at 10:01 -- I don't fool around with this stuff  ... some of my zones/periods literally sell out in the first couple minutes).

I concentrate on the south zones. This year there was, in general, slightly more left than the past 2 years. The pandemic effect is lessening, people going to back to work now, I think.

But it wasn't drastic. And one zone, 16, is getting more interest. I don't know if the quotas have changed (that would affect things).

Here's the difference between what was available first OTC day this year compared  to 2021 which was the first season sales that really got affected by the pandemic - by then is when many people were remotely working and had more time to turkey hunt:

(so, for example, you can see this year there were 4 less permits available OTC in 16B than in 2021, 23 less for 16C and 36 less for 16D, but more available for A and E!)

BTW: for the past 3 years, there wasn't a zone that was sold out after the lottery - every zone had at least a few permits available OTC... but some you need fast fingers because some would sell out within minutes. Don't expect to go to a license agent and be able to get those - by the time the guy at the machine finished typing in your CID number, they'd be gone).

Here's the year-over-year difference (the amount of permits we had available OTC this year compared to last year, virtually every zone had  more permits available this year):

 

I'm confused here. Both charts say 2023

[mazzgolf]

23 minutes ago, Bonefreak said:

Wow!!  14 had more than normal OTC left

Here's your z14 data from the last 3 years - you definitely had more available OTC compared to '21 and '22:

	2021	2022	2023
A	63	50	79
B	41	154	176
C	326	353	366
D	196	168	242
E	28	51	62

[mazzgolf]

3 minutes ago, DBuck said:

I'm confused here. Both charts say 2023

That's just a reflection of the way that column value was generated.. 2023 is the first year of the comparison. The first chart compared 2023 to 2021; the second compared 2023 to 2022. The column value is just the first year of the comparison. It's confusing, but I didn't bother making it less confusing, the chart was really just for me, and I know what I meant

Edited March 27, 2023 by mazzgolf