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alabjr

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So our new house has a few acre hay field (my guess is maybe 3 or 4 acres?). The previous owner had some kind of agreement with a local farmer who harvested the hay twice a year, but they never told me what the agreement was (they didn’t even give me a phone number after numerous attempts asking for it, I had to find out who the farmer was through a neighbor).  

Is this something I should be charging the farmer for since he’s profiting off of my land? If so, how much? My other thought is that at least I don’t have to maintain all of that land myself, so even if they don’t pay me in money they are paying me in drastically reducing how many hours I sit on a mower every week lol.

I was a suburbs guy who is now loving the new country life, but there are still some things I need to learn obviously. Appreciate the insight in advance guys, thanks!

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I know a lot of guys out where my dad lives (Kansas) will let the farmer do the hay and in exchange they leave a few bales for the owner for feed. You get your field mowed and don’t have to do the work, and some free feed in exchange for giving the rest of your hay away. I know there’s not alot of cattle in NJ so I don’t know what an appropriate agreement would be here

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10 minutes ago, DBuck said:

Ask the farmer if he has any property you could hunt in exchange.

Thought about this, though I already have my land and some other properties I have permission to hunt. I think it will still be part of any deal with him (if he’s willing) since I know he does have a lot of land 

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11 minutes ago, mike033089 said:

By the farmer doing this are you able to get farmland tax assessed?  That right there could be the agreement. He wins and you win

Unfortunately I was told by the seller and her realtor that she tried getting farm assessed and they told her she would have to cut down a certain amount of acreage of trees on the back part of the property behind the hay field to qualify (which I wouldn’t want to do, at least not any time soon). I guess it’s just shy of having enough land to qualify? Idk what the minimum is for farm assessment. 

I’ll probably still attempt to apply for farm assessment myself in case she was lying to me or something, though idk why she would lie about that, it would only make the house more appealing to a buyer.

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goggle nj farm accesed you must make so much and so much per acre. here in pa you need 12 acres for act 319 clean and green. i pay tax on the house not the land or out buildings. the land must be farmed ,public access or forest management one of the three. i have a 13 1/2 acre peace no house next to my land, with the house, and the tax bill is 78 .oo. the thinking is farm land alone does not produce kids in school. my neighbor farms my land with corn and beans and i dont charge anything. i want a friend not a partner. he farms about 15,ooo acers in our valley. i can hunt almost all of it.

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9 minutes ago, alabjr said:

Unfortunately I was told by the seller and her realtor that she tried getting farm assessed and they told her she would have to cut down a certain amount of acreage of trees on the back part of the property behind the hay field to qualify (which I wouldn’t want to do, at least not any time soon). I guess it’s just shy of having enough land to qualify? Idk what the minimum is for farm assessment. 

I’ll probably still attempt to apply for farm assessment myself in case she was lying to me or something, though idk why she would lie about that, it would only make the house more appealing to a buyer.

Same boat for me. I’m on 6.5 acres. I was told it is either or to meet land requirements. I believe at least  5 acres of all woods or farmland. And they deduct the foot print of house/driveway/barns etc.  and if woods you need to follow a management plan. I could be wrong though.  But all my neighbors on our private road have the same property size and no one is farm assessed for tax purposes. 

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11 minutes ago, mike033089 said:

Same boat for me. I’m on 6.5 acres. I was told it is either or to meet land requirements. I believe at least  5 acres of all woods or farmland. And they deduct the foot print of house/driveway/barns etc.  and if woods you need to follow a management plan. I could be wrong though.  But all my neighbors on our private road have the same property size and no one is farm assessed for tax purposes. 

This makes a lot of sense because I have 6.24 acres and like I said maybe a 3-4 acre hay field. I believe they told the previous owner to cut back 1 or 1.5acres of woods, which I wouldn’t want to do. I feel like that’s the majority of the woods that I have back there and I like having a variety (so do the deer that hang out on my property, it seems haha).

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1 hour ago, alabjr said:

Since farmland tax assessment is essentially off the table (at least for now), any other ideas on this other than asking to hunt the farmer’s land?

Plant fruit trees!

“In a civilized and cultivated country, wild animals only continue to exist at all when preserved by sportsmen.” -Theodore Roosevelt

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