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1 hour ago, hammer4reel said:

And that is why this country will never climb out of the hole it’s chosen to be in .

 

Manufacturing won't solve any problems.  Bringing it back won't make anything better.  Our economy is not a labor-based economy anymore.  It is a knowledge and information based economy.  That's why we have the growth and innovation that we do.  Labor is just nostalgic, but it doesn't add more to the growth of our economy.

Sapere aude.

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11 minutes ago, Haskell_Hunter said:

Manufacturing won't solve any problems.  Bringing it back won't make anything better.  Our economy is not a labor-based economy anymore.  It is a knowledge and information based economy.  That's why we have the growth and innovation that we do.  Labor is just nostalgic, but it doesn't add more to the growth of our economy.

NUTS!!!

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1 hour ago, hammer4reel said:

The only economy that will get stimulated by this administration is CHINA .

We are so dependent on China right now , it’s to the point they can’t even come close to meeting this countries needs .

without manufacturing coming back to this country it will never ever be what it once was .

‘There is no doubt a HUGE infrastructure rebuild is needed , but bankrupting all American citizens to push the current agenda will do nothing  to help support those changes 

 

An infrastructure bill that actually tends to the nations ailing roads and bridges is political folly. I believe a very small percentage of the recent bill actually goes to infrastructure. The rest pays off cronies and other political allies. Build back better is nothing more than a Marxist wish list which will cause an economic tsunami. But at least we will all be green....

  

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24 minutes ago, Haskell_Hunter said:

Manufacturing won't solve any problems.  Bringing it back won't make anything better.  Our economy is not a labor-based economy anymore.  It is a knowledge and information based economy.  That's why we have the growth and innovation that we do.  Labor is just nostalgic, but it doesn't add more to the growth of our economy.

Bullshit. 
money spent here that stays here generates more money for the United States  than buying cheaper from another country that spends its profits there . 
 

innovation lol

japan and China smoked us in every aspect of the that . 
while many think it was all due to cheaper costs it wasn’t 

it was because they had a higher success ratio building electronics . 
 

when all micro electronic component started US manufactured three good chips out of every hundred . 
japan then China had a success rate over 90 percent . 

 

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2 minutes ago, Merkel said:

Brandon is launching various inquiries into so-called “price gouging” - gas, retailers, food….. maybe he shouldn’t have given out the CV stimulus checks that may be contributing to inflation. 

We're in an inflation?:nerd:

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36 minutes ago, Haskell_Hunter said:

Manufacturing won't solve any problems.  Bringing it back won't make anything better.  Our economy is not a labor-based economy anymore.  It is a knowledge and information based economy.  That's why we have the growth and innovation that we do.  Labor is just nostalgic, but it doesn't add more to the growth of our economy.

I agree we are a knowledge based economy and may never return to a manufacturing nation.  We don’t have a labor cost advantage.  But the lessons from the past year or so have shown businesses need to rethink their supply chain processes including reducing just in time inventories and bringing back some manufacturing.  Probably more aspirational but I think you’ll see some change. 

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24 minutes ago, hammer4reel said:

Bullshit. 
money spent here that stays here generates more money for the United States  than buying cheaper from another country that spends its profits there . 
 

innovation lol

japan and China smoked us in every aspect of the that . 
while many think it was all due to cheaper costs it wasn’t 

it was because they had a higher success ratio building electronics . 
 

when all micro electronic component started US manufactured three good chips out of every hundred . 
japan then China had a success rate over 90 percent . 

 

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Everything you just pointed out is manufacturing.

The US pioneered most of the software used on the Internet.  The protocols and patents that make it work come largely from US institutions.  The US manages massive amounts of data and information and provides those resources to US consumers.

The engineering for robotics.  The research done to create pharmaceuticals.  The list goes on.  These are knowledge products and the reselling of information.  Facebook and Google are absurdly rich companies because they trade in information, not labor services.

There is no other country that does information services better than the US when it comes to invention and innovation.  That's what generates most of the money in our economy and growth in the economy.

Sapere aude.

Audeamus.

When you cannot measure, your knowledge is meager and unsatisfactory.

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4 minutes ago, Merkel said:

I agree we are a knowledge based economy and may never return to a manufacturing nation.  We don’t have a labor cost advantage.  But the lessons from the past year or so have shown businesses need to rethink their supply chain processes including reducing just in time inventories and bringing back some manufacturing.  Probably more aspirational but I think you’ll see some change. 

You'll definitely see some changes.  More manufacturing will move to South and Central America.  If those countries could stabilize their governments, they would become rich overnight.  But even so, there are supply chain issues with South America.  Some US companies are moving manufacturing to Vietnam and other satellite countries around China.

Mineral extraction, reprocessing, and manufacturing are all centralized in China right now.  That's why they can make cheap parts, because they own the supply chains within their own country.  We don't extract anything much out of the ground anymore in the US (thanks Dems), so we don't have raw materials to go from ground to product like China does.

China is making massive infrastructure investments in Africa.  Eventually the cost of living in China will get too high to support cheap labor, and they are making investments in Africa to move their manufacturing there.  The seeds are being sown.

Sapere aude.

Audeamus.

When you cannot measure, your knowledge is meager and unsatisfactory.

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15 minutes ago, Haskell_Hunter said:

 

There is no other country that does  better than the US when it comes to invention and innovation.  That's what generates most of the money in our economy and growth in the economy.

I'm working on a slinky to try to make it go upstairs.:hmmmer:

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7 hours ago, Haskell_Hunter said:

You'll definitely see some changes.  More manufacturing will move to South and Central America.  If those countries could stabilize their governments, they would become rich overnight.  But even so, there are supply chain issues with South America.  Some US companies are moving manufacturing to Vietnam and other satellite countries around China.

Mineral extraction, reprocessing, and manufacturing are all centralized in China right now.  That's why they can make cheap parts, because they own the supply chains within their own country.  We don't extract anything much out of the ground anymore in the US (thanks Dems), so we don't have raw materials to go from ground to product like China does.

China is making massive infrastructure investments in Africa.  Eventually the cost of living in China will get too high to support cheap labor, and they are making investments in Africa to move their manufacturing there.  The seeds are being sown.

The Chinese look to the future. The next year, decade, century. Americans become impatient when their package is delayed a day. That mindset along with a host of other advantages all but guarantees their world dominance. 

Our leaders set the table and now China ( and those pesky Russians ) are gonna feast. Nothing new just history doing what it always does. 

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