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I am embarking on a virtually impossible task, but I must try. It is a project I need to attempt. Back in 1979 when I was a little kid my father was hurting for money around Christmas time. He needed money for Christmas presents and  was at the end of his rope so he sold two guns that belonged to my grandfather who had died a couple of years earlier. It killed him to do it, but one of the two times we spoke about it, he was crushed and visibly upset. He was embarrased that he was at that point and crushed that he sold those guns. It bothered him even more as I grew up and had the passion for hunting and the outdoors that his father had. His original plan was to eventually pass those guns to me. My grandfather died when I was 6 years old. We were both in the hospital at the same time and I never had the chance for a real goodbye or learn about hunting from him.

A few years back my father found some old hunting pictures of my grandfather and him with some deer that they had taken. In there was the original receipt of when he sold those guns. I made a copy of it because those pictures and that receipt was the only connection I had with my grandfather and hunting. I put it away somewhere and knew I had it. My father and I have had many conversations about my grandfather and hunting but I could never mention the guns. It hurt him too much knowing that those should still be in the family with me and still using them.

A couple of weeks ago I was looking at the pictures but couldn't find the receipt. I was off for two days and tore my house apart looking for it but couldn't find it. I was crushed. Yesterday while cleaning out my desk at work I found it. I don't know how or why it was there, I'm just happy I have it again. I told my father I found it and told him what I planned on doing. Here is where the project starts. 

The guns were sold on December 12, 1979 to Luciano's Sport Shop in Lodi. There is a very slim chance that someone from here at one time bought those guns or once owned them. I attempting to find them and purchase them back if possible. If not, at the very least to see and hold them as I have pictures of deer and bear that they harvested. Price is really not the issue as the sentimental value and easing of some pain is true value here. Years ago I mentioned this to Luciano's when I was there and they told me they had no records that far back. Long guns sold between private parties only required a Certificate of Eligibility between them, no FFL transfer as is in place now.

The first was a Winchester Model 94 30/30 Serial #2769698

The second is a Remington Model 870 Wingmaster 12 gauge Serial #61680V 

I'm asking anyone on here that may own these types of long guns and may have purchased them from there or from someone else, to check you serial numbers to see if may have one and let me know. I have the receipt and can show it to verify. It's a needle in a haystack search but I have to try and start somewhere so I figured I would start here. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

 

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I just checked my wingmaster...not yours.  Good luck.

I really hoped it was! A guy actually gave it to me a number of years ago....at a bar. He knew I hunted and this gun was his dad's. 

Would have been nice to give to you, if it was yours.

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Just a thought but why dont you contact Luciano's Sport Shop in Lodi to see if by some chance they have records of  who they sold the guns to.  That either they contact the new owners for you.  They might be in the same situation.  In this case family member passes on and they dont know what to do with them.  Its worth a try considering that's the place where it all starts.

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3 minutes ago, buck169 said:

Just a thought but why dont you contact Luciano's Sport Shop in Lodi to see if by some chance they have records of  who they sold the guns to.  That either they contact the new owners for you.  They might be in the same situation.  In this case family member passes on and they dont know what to do with them.  Its worth a try considering that's the place where it all starts.

That was done already, I mentioned it in the post

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Your dad did what it had to do for you and family, to me he's a true man !!!! My father had some issues money wise a year before his passing, he was about to sell a Winchester model 71 pre-64 .348 still in original box....I gave him what he needed,I would of regardless of gun or not, he was to proud and stubborn to ask me. 

My family was close to the Luciano family, being from Lodi.  I herd Mike passed away, Joe is running it now still in gun business but not like it was.  Maybe just maybe he still has the paperwork on the buyer, can't hurt to look into it

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18 minutes ago, BHC said:

Your dad did what it had to do for you and family, to me he's a true man !!!! My father had some issues money wise a year before his passing, he was about to sell a Winchester model 71 pre-64 .348 still in original box....I gave him what he needed,I would of regardless of gun or not, he was to proud and stubborn to ask me. 

My family was close to the Luciano family, being from Lodi.  I herd Mike passed away, Joe is running it now still in gun business but not like it was.  Maybe just maybe he still has the paperwork on the buyer, can't hurt to look into it

OP already mentioned he looked into that. 

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Good luck , I hope we get a follow up story of success in finding it. Even if not personally knowing you or most the guys here it’s cool to hear this kind of stuff I hope you find them. 

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I had a similar situation ...my dad gave someone some guns to payoff a debt of mine for a 69 camaro i got when i was 14....i was able to track down his favorite gun a browning a5 12 ga..he always wanted one and finally bought one..so it beoke my heart that he gave them away because of me.when i found it i bought it back and gave it to him for christmas. For most of us hunting memories with our father were the best of times.Good luck with finding the guns 

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its a long shot , but , how about an ad in n.r.a. magazine? , i see ads for lost or stolen guns every now and then , also maybe an ad in New Jersey Federation of  Sportsmen , also contact hunting clubs in the area , good luck

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