Ram 1500 v6 vs v8

[mike033089]

Curious to hear from some guys who have a newer 18- present day ram V6.  Do you feel that it underperforms for you?  I’m thinking more of yard work, towing a Jon boat and several hundred lbs here and there.  Do you regret the lack of a v8. It won’t be a daily driver just when I need it and crappy weather. By having choices of a v6 it opens up a wide range of return leases.  Thanks 

[not on the rug]

A 5300lb truck that makes 305hp and 269lb ft of torque is going to drive like a snail. Most soccer mom SUVs and sedans make more power than that these days.  The V8 gets almost identical gas mileage, and ups the towing capacity 3k lbs.  

It obviously depends on how you will be using it, but there is no way in the world I'd run any V6 in a full sized truck.   

[JHbowhunter]

The only 6 cylinder engine to buy is Ford's, they crush the competition in that regard.   I would not buy a Ram or Chevy in a 6, only the 8.   I just got the new 2021 in the 3.5 twin turbo ecoboost, which still by the way  - beats out ALL the other 8's in torque. 

Here are latest specs of the big-3, not  including anything Japanese...  

2021 Ford F-150

3.3-liter V-6: 290 hp, 265 lb-ft

2.7-liter V-6: 325 hp, 400 lb-ft

5.0-liter V-8: 400 hp, 410 lb-ft

3.5-liter V-6: 400 hp, 500 lb-ft

3.0-liter V-6, diesel: 250 hp, 440 lb-ft

3.5-liter V-6, hybrid: 430 hp, 570 lb-ft

 

2021 Ram 1500

3.6-liter V-6 w/ eTorque: 305 hp, 269 lb-ft

3.0-liter V-6, diesel: 260 hp, 480 lb-ft

5.7-liter V-8 w/ or w/o eTorque: 395 hp, 410 lb-ft

 

2021 Chevrolet Silverado

4.3-liter V-6: 285 hp, 305 lb-ft

5.3-liter V-8: 355 hp, 383 lb-ft

2.7-liter I-4: 310 hp, 348 lb-ft

6.2-liter V-8: 420 hp, 460 lb-ft

3.0-liter I-6, diesel: 277 hp, 460 lb-ft

Edited March 16, 2021 by JHbowhunter

[JHbowhunter]

14 minutes ago, not on the rug said:

 

It obviously depends on how you will be using it, but there is no way in the world I'd run any V6 in a full sized truck.   

look at the spec's on the f-150 6's.   No 8 cyclinder can match the torque. Specs do not lie. 

 

The 3.5-liter EcoBoost now produces 400 horsepower (up 25) and 500 lb-ft of torque (up 30) and can tow up to 14,000 pounds (the previous model year maxed out at 13,200 pounds) with a max payload of 3250 pounds.

Lets compare it to the  "mighty" hemi at 395 HP  and 410 lbs torque. Experience "impressive"towing capability with a maximum towing capacity of up to 10,610 pounds  when equipped with the available 5.7L HEMI® V8 engine and TorqueFlite® eight-speed automatic transmission.

Edited March 16, 2021 by JHbowhunter

[Bucndoe]

A V-6 in a full sized truck is like lipstick on a pig

[JHbowhunter]

1 minute ago, Bucndoe said:

A V-6 in a full sized truck is like lipstick on a pig

true for 2 of the 3 American made trucks....

[electric10162]

15 minutes ago, JHbowhunter said:

The 3.5-liter EcoBoost now produces 400 horsepower (up 25) and 500 lb-ft of torque (up 30) and can tow up to 14,000 pounds (the previous model year maxed out at 13,200 pounds) with a max payload of 3250 pounds.

Pretty impressive.  But I'll stick with 450 HP and 935 FT LBS

[Bucndoe]

A Ford V6 wont pull what a Ford V8 pulls efficiently. If you try you loose all that gas mileage that you bought the V6 for. If you aren’t going to treat a full sized Ford as a truck, buy the V6 

Edited March 16, 2021 by Bucndoe

[Haskell_Hunter]

1 minute ago, JHbowhunter said:

true for 2 of the 3 American made trucks....

We still doin' that truck pull this weekend?  $1,000 say specs lie and your Ford will be movin' backwards.

[Haskell_Hunter]

3 minutes ago, Bucndoe said:

A Ford V6 wont pull what a Ford V8 pulls efficiently. If you try you loose all that gas mileage that you bought the V6 for. If you aren’t going to treat a full sized Ford as a truck, buy the V6 

Axle ratio comes into play when you are hauling.  The F-150s with the eco engines have a smaller ratio to better conform with government MPG mandates.  They have the power, but they can't haul for shit.

[not on the rug]

4 minutes ago, JHbowhunter said:

look at the spec's on the f-150 6's.   No 8 cyclinder can match the torque. Specs do not lie. 

Correct me if I'm wrong.  That 3.5 ecoboost makes 500lb ft of torque for 2021.  That is an impressive spec.  Certainly better than all of the other V6 truck motors that I know of.  

As for V8s, you might be correct.   Most are in the 400s as far as I know, until you start getting in to diesels.  I know the Titan XD makes 555 lb-ft from that Cummins, but that's diesel too.  

I know my V8 makes 555hp and 500lb ft of torque and I know the 2021 version of that build makes 617hp and 553 lb ft of torque.  

[electric10162]

1 minute ago, Haskell_Hunter said:

We still doin' that truck pull this weekend?  $1,000 say specs lie and your Ford will be movin' backwards.

Only if Dan shows up with the Big Dog Dodge!

[Bucndoe]

5 minutes ago, Haskell_Hunter said:

Axle ratio comes into play when you are hauling.  The F-150s with the eco engines have a smaller ratio to better conform with government MPG mandates.  They have the power, but they can't haul for shit.

Correct. I pulled the same camper on the same route with both trucks and the V8 pulled a lot better and was a smoother ride. I don’t care what the engineers said in the specs, the actual performance is what I was sold on

Edited March 16, 2021 by Bucndoe

[JHbowhunter]

5 minutes ago, Haskell_Hunter said:

We still doin' that truck pull this weekend?  $1,000 say specs lie and your Ford will be movin' backwards.

what are you like - 17?

[JHbowhunter]

10 minutes ago, electric10162 said:

Pretty impressive.  But I'll stick with 450 HP and 935 FT LBS

Diesel