FeniQuest217 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I love hearing the stories and seeing the harvests, but there's always the comment hunters make that i find so intriguing - "I've let bucks walk before" . Now upon reading that you may have taken every shot you've seen but my question for this thread is to what makes you consider letting them walk if you have? Is it too high a risk a shot? is it too far? is it 'just because'? Presently at one of my stands my friend got an 8 pointer the other day but they also saw a spike in the area. I asked him if we see the spike Monday do we take him? Be nice to let him grow a rack. He brought up a great argument - hunters in NJ don't think that way. Someone else will get him, especially on public land. Just wanted to hear some chatter on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) I have no rules. If it feels right I take a shot. Sometimes I go all season without taking a buck sometimes I get lucky to get that feeling. Regardless of how the season ends for me, the vast majority of bucks I see I shoot with my camera only Edited December 3, 2020 by Lunatic Nanuk, Lungsonlvs, FeniQuest217 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_X7 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 "Someone else will get him" is wrong thinking as I see it. Big bucks don't get big if you shoot them as small bucks. I'm certainly sure the big bucks have survived more than a few hunters in his lifetime. Nanuk, Farmshine, OMC and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHbowhunter Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I do have standards. I generally do not start looking at bucks until age 3.5, and most if not all will get a pass at that age because it's the next two years they will usually and I say "usually" blow up and hit their fullest potential. Bucks, like wine are a renewable resource and why uncork a great Red Zin with potential at 1.5 years, if you know it will be best at age 4.5 or 5.5. I have seen exceptions to this of course - 2019 I took a velvet 10 I thought was 5.5 turns out he was aged officially at 6.5. His best set of antlers was in 2017 at age 4.5, the first year he went from 8 to 10 points. He was just a little smaller 2018 and a little smaller 2019. Still was cool to take an old ghost in full velvet long after his posse was hard horned. That is an exception though. This year - I first passed on a stud 9 point with insane brow tines, because everything about his body suggested he was 3.5 and I figured the upside was just too great. Well things changed, when I saw him 2 weeks later and he got my blood really pumping and decided to shoot. No buck shaming here - it was my choice and he got to pass on those genes. I am getting him aged to see "how young" he is vs how old - who knows I may be surprised, but still going with 3.5. The ultimate was also last year when I took a veteran's day gigantic 10 I had NO CLUE or history with... Some bucks especially with no prior history, when they have that holy ###t factor - you do not question. _X7, hvnj, 3Blade and 4 others 7 Nothing spooks deer more than my stank… 16 3/4” Live Fluke Release Club I shot a big 10pt once…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuk Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Its a personal choice and I unfortunately have had very little opportunity to hunt private lands in NJ , therefore I'm from the school of if its safe and legal its down unless..... we've taken a few. When I only hunt 15-20 days a season and enjoy eating what I shoot I don't let an opportunity slide. I really don't have time to be a sportsmen especially if I want to fill my freezer. Once the freezers content I may be more discriminatory but I haven't had that issue in a long time especially with a family that enjoys fresh venison. To each their own, i don't judge i actually give guys a lot of credit that go through the ritual day after day and are able to see animals and don't shoot. I had a friend that hunted with me years ago that was very picky and only till the last week would he shoot doe to obtain some meat, his family didn't like it and it was only for jerky or sausage. Lunatic and yoda4x4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeniQuest217 Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, JHbowhunter said: I do have standards. I generally do not start looking at bucks until age 3.5, and most if not all will get a pass at that age because it's the next two years they will usually and I say "usually" blow up and hit their fullest potential. Bucks, like wine are a renewable resource and why uncork a great Red Zin with potential at 1.5 years, if you know it will be best at age 4.5 or 5.5. I have seen exceptions to this of course - 2019 I took a velvet 10 I thought was 5.5 turns out he was aged officially at 6.5. His best set of antlers was in 2017 at age 4.5, the first year he went from 8 to 10 points. He was just a little smaller 2018 and a little smaller 2019. Still was cool to take an old ghost in full velvet long after his posse was hard horned. That is an exception though. This year - I first passed on a stud 9 point with insane brow tines, because everything about his body suggested he was 3.5 and I figured the upside was just too great. Well things changed, when I saw him 2 weeks later and he got my blood really pumping and decided to shoot. No buck shaming here - it was my choice and he got to pass on those genes. I am getting him aged to see "how young" he is vs how old - who knows I may be surprised, but still going with 3.5. The ultimate was also last year when I took a veteran's day gigantic 10 I had NO CLUE or history with... Some bucks especially with no prior history, when they have that holy ###t factor - you do not question. I mean I've been out there this year only a handful and have only seen one from too far away during bow season. But as eager as I am to get a buck, just young taking one to take one of any age doesn't appeal to me. I do just love being out there in my stand or in the ground blind - just love it. Farmshine, JHbowhunter, Buck154 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyes11 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Too many factors. Some guys or girls just don’t have the time to hunt as much as they want. Youth sports are time consuming for parents. OT at work. Health issues etc. That’s why I don’t judge anyone and just enjoy the pics. So if your out Monday morning and a spiker comes by. Let it rip if it makes you happy and enjoy it. Best of luck to everyone and be safe. Nanuk, tpr1921, hvnj and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 for venison I shoot a doe, I let almost all bucks walk to the point I eat tag soup a lot. But I am rewarded with the opportunity to see some big deer. OMC, hvnj and jumpthestring 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHbowhunter Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, FeniQuest217 said: I mean I've been out there this year only a handful and have only seen one from too far away during bow season. But as eager as I am to get a buck, just young taking one to take one of any age doesn't appeal to me. I do just love being out there in my stand or in the ground blind - just love it. in order to hunt "Mature" older bucks , it's best to cut you teeth on some younger ones first. Get experience under your belt before you become more selective. No decent hunter or human would ever fault or shame you for that. Learn body angles, how to draw undedected (if using bow), where to place your arrow, bolt or bullet, etc. Learn how to call them in and when not to call - I been at this 46 years and every single hunt is a new experience and I always have something to take away from it. 3Blade, Eyesofthewoods, JFC1 and 1 other 4 Nothing spooks deer more than my stank… 16 3/4” Live Fluke Release Club I shot a big 10pt once…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGHunter66 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, FeniQuest217 said: Now upon reading that you may have taken every shot you've seen but my question for this thread is to what makes you consider letting them walk if you have? Is it too high a risk a shot? is it too far? is it 'just because'? Just thinking at the moment that it is a high risk shot or to far should ethically make you not take the shot. Letting them walk is a personal choice decision. Some want something more wether it be rack size or age while others may not... a personal decision. Shoot what makes your heart beat and makes you happy. Hunters should not judge other hinters on what that may be. You’re out there to enjoy not impress not on the rug and 3Blade 2 AWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHbowhunter Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, MGHunter66 said: Just thinking at the moment that it is a high risk shot or to far should ethically make you not take the shot. Letting them walk is a personal choice decision. Some want something more wether it be rack size or age while others may not... a personal decision. Shoot what makes your heart beat and makes you happy. Hunters should not judge other hinters on what that may be. You’re out there to enjoy not impress unless you are in some "group text" from hell, where no matter what you shoot you will be unmercifully ridiculed by everyone in the group. I have heard of such group texts... They do exists.. Buck154 and MGHunter66 2 Nothing spooks deer more than my stank… 16 3/4” Live Fluke Release Club I shot a big 10pt once…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHbowhunter Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3Blade, OldMenRule, not on the rug and 4 others 1 6 Nothing spooks deer more than my stank… 16 3/4” Live Fluke Release Club I shot a big 10pt once…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchinDeers243 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 If it makes the heart go pitter patter and gets me excited I’ll shoot the deer as long as the appropriate shot presents itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobblengrunt Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I will only shoot a buck if: 1) my target buck 2) bigger then target buck or meets “my” minimum score 3) it just feels right i never worry about someone shooting a deer I let go. I never look down on someone shooting a deer I let go or below “my” standards. I usually hunt deep woods in some pretty unforgiving terrain so it has to be the right deer for me to drag out. I always think to myself that if I shoot my hunt is over, am I ending all my preparation, scouting, and effort on this deer? I truly enjoy hunting as a whole where the kill is a very small part of my success. Once a deer has been in range, I feel I “killed” him and he doesn’t even know it. I will also let ANY deer walk if the shot isn’t 100% jumpthestring and JHbowhunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 It's personal. I am introducing my kids to hunting. We hunt in PA. I had a button buck in front of my son a few weeks back and elected not to shoot. I took the time to explain to him that we had a doe tag, the deer was small, and the situation was not right. He understood. It was my choice. A few hours later we ran into a hunter who shot his own Button Buck. He was elated. I told my son that particular hunter made a choice that best suited him. I would rather wait for an older buck or mature doe. We took video and had a blast. I would make that same call 100% of the time. Nanuk, Eyesofthewoods and iluv2hunt 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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