NY Attorney General lawsuit seeks to dissolve National Rifle Association

[BHC]

she should be looking into corruption in the state of NY

[Merkel]

I’m a NRA life member and acknowledge the problems with NRA but this suit is clearly political.  Don’t remember the same reaction from politicians and AG when United Way and Planned Parenthood had similar issues.

[A&N_Hunter]

5 minutes ago, Merkel said:

I’m a NRA life member and acknowledge the problems with NRA but this suit is clearly political.  Don’t remember the same reaction from politicians and AG when United Way and Planned Parenthood had similar issues.

Exactly!

Then the witch sits there and says this is not political. Just goes to show  a) How stupid these corrupt officials think the public are and b) How stupid many people probably are who take it as gospel and believe it!

[Pathman]

13 hours ago, A&N_Hunter said:

 

For our sake, I hope dissolution is not the result but perhaps a change in leadership. Last thing we need are fractions of an organization fighting for 2A rights on a national level...

And you’re not a member why? 

[A&N_Hunter]

3 minutes ago, Pathman said:

And you’re not a member why? 

Would the reason matter? 

[Pathman]

4 minutes ago, A&N_Hunter said:

Would the reason matter? 

That depends, You seem to believe the organization is important, but yet you’re not a member. 
not looking to get into your personal space, just curious what would cause your conflict? 
Unless you were involved at the national level and had issues personally with the higher ups, I can’t phantom why a gun owner would not be a member. 
I know many instructors who have taken issue with many of the changes NRA made to curriculum, etc., but that has nothing to do with the org on a national level. 
If firearm owners Aren’t members because of some local issue, you’re cutting off your nose to spite your face. 
And to the guys that think another group would just step in a take over and be as effective as the NRA, you’re simply delusional! 
In order for another org to have the clout and effectiveness the NRA has, they’d basically have to turn into the NRA. 
I get that NJ doesn’t realize many of the benefits of the NRA, but it’s a futile effort here given the political landscape, I think we all know that, so we can’t blame them for not throwing good money after bad with no return. 

But again, the NRAs  national level effectiveness in upholding the 2A is what keeps guns in our hands, if we don’t all recognize that, and allow personal issues and pet peeves to reduce membership, all will be lost. 
If the NRA goes, there’s no way in hell the gap will be filled in time to save our 2A, you willing to take that chance to save $40 a year? Think about it...

[Batsto]

Great idea! Defund police and take guns away from law abiding taxpayers. I think that a fantastic idea. I say go for it! 

[JHbowhunter]

8 minutes ago, Pathman said:

But again, the NRAs  national level effectiveness in upholding the 2A is what keeps guns in our hands, if we don’t all recognize that, and allow personal issues and pet peeves to reduce membership, all will be lost. 
If the NRA goes, there’s no way in hell the gap will be filled in time to save our 2A, you willing to take that chance to save $40 a year? Think about it...

I stopped being a member years ago, not any "specific" reason but probably just was tired of all the mail and spam, etc.  However you may have motivated me to join again (along with this lawsuit as added motivation of course). 

[Hawkeye57]

18 minutes ago, Pathman said:

That depends, You seem to believe the organization is important, but yet you’re not a member. 
not looking to get into your personal space, just curious what would cause your conflict? 
Unless you were involved at the national level and had issues personally with the higher ups, I can’t phantom why a gun owner would not be a member. 
I know many instructors who have taken issue with many of the changes NRA made to curriculum, etc., but that has nothing to do with the org on a national level. 
If firearm owners Aren’t members because of some local issue, you’re cutting off your nose to spite your face. 
And to the guys that think another group would just step in a take over and be as effective as the NRA, you’re simply delusional! 
In order for another org to have the clout and effectiveness the NRA has, they’d basically have to turn into the NRA. 
I get that NJ doesn’t realize many of the benefits of the NRA, but it’s a futile effort here given the political landscape, I think we all know that, so we can’t blame them for not throwing good money after bad with no return. 

But again, the NRAs  national level effectiveness in upholding the 2A is what keeps guns in our hands, if we don’t all recognize that, and allow personal issues and pet peeves to reduce membership, all will be lost. 
If the NRA goes, there’s no way in hell the gap will be filled in time to save our 2A, you willing to take that chance to save $40 a year? Think about it...

Just to clarify, the National Shooting sports foundation spent more on lobbying than the NRA all while their executives took in SIGNIFICANTLY less compensation. 

The NRA has become a snake oil salesman to the hard working Americans they claim to represent. The NRA has done a lot of great things but your statement is factual untrue. If the NRA went away tomorrow, Republicans would still support 2a. The NRA does little to challenge Democrats. They support incumbent Republicans with funds that are meaningless in the grand scheme. Your boy Wayne could start a super PAC and drop 11 Million on battle ground states which would (by comparison) be less than a lifetime membership from their base in balancing out incomes. 

What the NRA Spends on Lobbying 2A is a fraction of what they bring in. THAT is my problem with the organization. 

 

YOU membership helped pay for Wayne's $6 million dollar house....(not his income, but your dues. He chose not to buy a house but rather make the NRA buy it for him)

Edited August 7, 2020 by Hawkeye57

[archer36]

8 minutes ago, JHbowhunter said:

I stopped being a member years ago, not any "specific" reason but probably just was tired of all the mail and spam, etc.  However you may have motivated me to join again (along with this lawsuit as added motivation of course). 

My Gun Club stopped the Club Membership a long time ago. 

[JHbowhunter]

16 minutes ago, Hawkeye57 said:

YOU membership helped pay for Wayne's $6 million dollar house....(not his income, but your dues. He chose not to buy a house but rather make the NRA buy it for him)

If true - that would be VERY concerning to me. 

[A&N_Hunter]

1 hour ago, Pathman said:

That depends, You seem to believe the organization is important, but yet you’re not a member. 
not looking to get into your personal space, just curious what would cause your conflict? 
Unless you were involved at the national level and had issues personally with the higher ups, I can’t phantom why a gun owner would not be a member. 
I know many instructors who have taken issue with many of the changes NRA made to curriculum, etc., but that has nothing to do with the org on a national level. 
If firearm owners Aren’t members because of some local issue, you’re cutting off your nose to spite your face. 
And to the guys that think another group would just step in a take over and be as effective as the NRA, you’re simply delusional! 
In order for another org to have the clout and effectiveness the NRA has, they’d basically have to turn into the NRA. 
I get that NJ doesn’t realize many of the benefits of the NRA, but it’s a futile effort here given the political landscape, I think we all know that, so we can’t blame them for not throwing good money after bad with no return. 

But again, the NRAs  national level effectiveness in upholding the 2A is what keeps guns in our hands, if we don’t all recognize that, and allow personal issues and pet peeves to reduce membership, all will be lost. 
If the NRA goes, there’s no way in hell the gap will be filled in time to save our 2A, you willing to take that chance to save $40 a year? Think about it...

No worries, you have not triggered me, all is good!

I gave up renewing my membership, as I didn't feel the benefit of a MEMBERSHIP. This is where I mentioned in my original response that I took them for granted, meaning membership = window decals for the car plus a magazine I barely read. To me they are an important organization, and I believe they stand for all of us (members or not) on the national level. You hit the nail on the head with the action at the state level, which we all know will never change its stance on 2A (if anything, will get worse). Perhaps I wish my membership gave me more of a benefit to me in my own state. Selfish, but hey..

Edited August 7, 2020 by A&N_Hunter
spelling correction because i apparently cannot type

[Bucndoe]

35 minutes ago, Hawkeye57 said:

Just to clarify, the National Shooting sports foundation spent more on lobbying than the NRA all while their executives took in SIGNIFICANTLY less compensation. 

The NRA has become a snake oil salesman to the hard working Americans they claim to represent. The NRA has done a lot of great things but your statement is factual untrue. If the NRA went away tomorrow, Republicans would still support 2a. The NRA does little to challenge Democrats. They support incumbent Republicans with funds that are meaningless in the grand scheme. Your boy Wayne could start a super PAC and drop 11 Million on battle ground states which would (by comparison) be less than a lifetime membership from their base in balancing out incomes. 

What the NRA Spends on Lobbying 2A is a fraction of what they bring in. THAT is my problem with the organization. 

 

YOU membership helped pay for Wayne's $6 million dollar house....(not his income, but your dues. He chose not to buy a house but rather make the NRA buy it for him)

Try fighting the battle on your own and let me know how that works out for you. No organization, anywhere is perfect. Just like a radiator, everything needs flushing from time to time.

Edited August 7, 2020 by Bucndoe

[Hawkeye57]

19 minutes ago, Bucndoe said:

Try fighting the battle on your own and let me know how that works out for you. No organization, anywhere is perfect. Just like a radiator, everything needs flushing from time to time.

Agreed 100%. Hence why I named One the the many organizationS I support that have my 2a interests 

[nickmarch]

The At's office is prosecuting with taxpayer funds and has deep pockets.  Part of their goal is to deplete the funds of the NRA.  The more they deplete the less the NRA has to support Republicans.