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28 minutes ago, Bubblehead said:

Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on concealed carry when out in public?  Where legal of course.
 

And for the record, I do not carry when I’m at home but certainly agree with the principle and the concept. I do bring a firearm to the door when I am not expecting someone and I also carry on my property if I am doing a private sale of goods such as a craigslist sale

Where legal, I am a firm believer of concealed carry. When I lived out of state, I carried often. If you want to get into the weeds- I do believe one that carries should have to have a high standard of proficiency and prove it on an annual basis to have said permit. Gun in the hands of an untrained person, during a high stress situation, is more dangerous to those around. But now we are getting off topic 

To your point- I just sold a boat- while in my back yard during the large cash sale, I 100% had a gun on me during the process. However, on a daily basis, walking out into my backyard, I think it is silly to carry. That is just me. Why? Because anyone with the intention to do harm to a man standing in his back yard will most likely have the jump on me and be pointing the gun at me already. Yea, to some of the rambos on here, I could quick draw and hope my wife or neighbor doesnt get shot while rounds are flying all over. 

 

I have multiple loaded guns in my house. I am trained. if we are talking about situational awareness- I have a ring doorbell and if I am not expecting someone, I check the camera. Safer, easier, and smarter, than blindly opening a door even with a gun. 

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For the "carry at home" advocates talking about always being prepared- So you are saying that you want to be prepared for the moment someone smashes down your door, throws a flash bang, and enters your house? Because if you are that worried about a situation to carry, why not just grab it each time someone is at the door? It makes way more sense just to get a ring doorbell or a home security system than carrying all the time in your own home. 
Get a dog. They are companions, hunting partners, and will warn you of danger- also they will give you precious extra seconds if needed to gain the upper hand. 
The "what if's" are endless. Most break-ins are opportunistic/drug related. not by some trained person.
It's the people who stereotype how an incident unfolds who don't see it coming. Ring doorbell? It has to be coming from the front door? Get a dog, I have a feral cat I adopted and a rescue. Not an option. What works for one person doesn't work for everyone. Why is everyone so judgemental?

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11 minutes ago, Lunatic said:

I wonder what would our lives look like if we applied this type of vigilance to everything which is  at least as, or more danger than home burglaries. For example in NJ you are almost 3 times more likely to get injured or killed in a car accident than having someone break into your house. Not you being injured or killed but having your house invaded.  If you live in a safe area, with low crime, the number maybe 10 times more likely or higher. The list of things that can get you is very long.

Right.  Imagine if we did things like like wearing seatbelts.  And vehicle inspections.  And regular maintenance to our vehicles.  And fixing dangerous recalls.  And stopping at red lights.  And using turn signals.  And not excessively speeding.  And wearing protective gear like helmets and Kevlar clothing on a motorcycle.  All things YOU can do to protect yourself while in or on a vehicle.  

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As usual, things get taken out of context here between grown ass men. I probably should've said in my original post that I have literally carried my handgun a handful of times in my own house. That's probably 3-4 times since I have ever owned a house and two of those times were with a stranger in my house helping me deal with something. Always a few that have to flex their muscles on a forum.

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9 minutes ago, NJ Predator said:

things get taken out of context here between grown ass men

I dont think anything was taken out of context in terms of your original post. Edited, now, our question is significantly different. 

 

10 minutes ago, NJ Predator said:

Always a few that have to flex their muscles on a forum.

I just re-read everyone's comments. Seems like you asked a question and people responded with answers and justified their answers. Both sides of the opinion did. 

 

2020 for ya 

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1 hour ago, BowhunterNJ said:

Right.  Imagine if we did things like like wearing seatbelts.  And vehicle inspections.  And regular maintenance to our vehicles.  And fixing dangerous recalls.  And stopping at red lights.  And using turn signals.  And not excessively speeding.  And wearing protective gear like helmets and Kevlar clothing on a motorcycle.  All things YOU can do to protect yourself while in or on a vehicle.  

And what would be the actual probability of getting hurt or killed in a car accident if you didn’t do all you listed and more? It would make the possibility of getting hurt at home like a joke because the probability of something happening in your household is much lower then many other things you engage in on daily basis. This is not to say don’t do anything, I have a gun  in a quick access safe but this is not something I think of much. 

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7 minutes ago, Lunatic said:

And what would be the actual probability of getting hurt or killed in a car accident if you didn’t do all you listed and more? It would make the possibility of getting hurt at home like a joke because the probability of something happening in your household is much lower then many other things you engage in on daily basis. This is not to say don’t do anything, I have a gun  in a quick access safe but this is not something I think of much. 

The probability of getting in accident does vary depending on some of those circumstances.  Regardless, it doesn't mean you don't take measures to control what YOU can and protect yourself.  Again it's only a "joke" up until the day it happens to you or someone you care about.  Applies to gun ownership, right to carry, car accidents/safety, COVID, going to the doctor, taking proper medications, going to the dentist, and a slough of other things that have varying probabilities to cause us harm or death.  Most impart willful ignorance and its bliss, which is fine and can be argued it's a better way to live than being overly concerned with low probability issues.  To each their own, far be it from me to criticize one or the other.  However I never like the idea of saying one should or shouldn't live one way or another in a free society, and certainly would never advocate restricting their given rights or gaslight them to feel like it's wrong in any way.

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I hike three road miles every night with a 35 lb 4000 ci backpack on. On the right waist belt I have a holster for my .44 mag attached. In the last month I've been stopped twice by the police. Once by staties and once by locals. Both times they exited the car with their hands on the their guns. I'm pretty sure some one called it in both times. When I'm doing laps on my property, I have eight acres with a conditioning course set up, my gun is usually in the holster. I've waved to the state police as they drive by or turn around in my driveway without a word being said.

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For those that carry in your house and maybe on the exterior of your property. Be careful. NJ has those wonderful red flag laws. All it takes is one nosey neighbor to make a call. I've got cool neighbors but I don't even let my boys put the guns/bows in the truck anymore.  It's pathetic but it's reality. 

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3 hours ago, BowhunterNJ said:

The hardcore gun advocates (a lot of ex military and training specialists) are all about carrying 100% of the time so they are prepared 100% of the time and never caught off guard without it simply because you never know when XYZ will happen (no matter how nice of a neighborhood you live in).  I know people who keep a gun in every room.  And I'll never forget a neighbor of my friend's family in Ohio who is a Vietnam veteran, he ALWAYS carried even to check his mail and literally had a gun in every corner of every room in his house.  He owns around 400 acres of the most prime hunting property out there, but my friend said don't ever set foot on it or he will bury you out there (he wasn't joking).  I met the guy once because he shot a giant buck we had on trailcam the year before and we wanted to see the mount.  It was a pretty strict protocol to enter his property, call ahead, let my friend talk to him first since he's never met me, etc.  After that it was all good, nice enough guy just a little estranged.  Also memorable was he lived alone and had a pet hybrid wolf that followed him around religiously.  Certainly one of the stranger encounters I've had in my life, but wanting to see big bucks will make a man push the envelope to catch a glimpse!  Unfortunately, my friend never could convince the guy to let us hunt his property and I never set foot on it other than that day.  Not my way anyway, and that's the last land owner on the planet you'd want to mess around with! :rofl: 

 

What's his address?! Let's go. 

You go first.  I'll wait....

 

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1 hour ago, Hawkeye57 said:

Countless- yes. Statistically/odds- no. My point with the flash bang was meant for the point of at home. If you are worried about a person at the door, like your example of delivery, it would make just as much sense, if not more, just to keep a gun at the door than to always be wearing it. The only time that doesnt make sense is my example of the flash bang. It was a purposeful exaggeration lol 

Dissagree laying or placed somewhere someone can pick it up on your person you know where that fire srm is without a doubt.  With that said I do not carry in my home.

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17 minutes ago, Swamprat said:

For those that carry in your house and maybe on the exterior of your property. Be careful. NJ has those wonderful red flag laws. All it takes is one nosey neighbor to make a call. I've got cool neighbors but I don't even let my boys put the guns/bows in the truck anymore.  It's pathetic but it's reality. 

Just curious and don't want to sidetrack the topic too much, but what is the concern with letting your boys put the guns/bows in the truck?  You mean to go hunting or to the range with you?

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Just now, BowhunterNJ said:

Just curious and don't want to sidetrack the topic too much, but what is the concern with letting your boys put the guns/bows in the truck?  You mean to go hunting or to the range with you?

Yes. When we go hunting or to the range I handle all firearms.  I have to correct myself they have loaded the bow cases. Google red flag laws in NJ.  It's an eye opener. 

My concern is some "Karen" calling the police because she feels threatened by the sight of a gun case. It's ridiculous but it's a reality.  

Years ago(before I had kids)  I dealt with a soccer mom who was married to politically connected person and the although the police knew I was doing nothing wrong they still sided with her(him).  I believe it's one of the reasons why my town no longer allows hunting on public township property. 

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This is off topic but, personally, I don't think it is wise to be mentioning that you own any weapons on an open forum what with everything that is going on today.  Especially since Biden may be the POTUS come Jan!!!  Just my 2 cents.

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53 minutes ago, BowhunterNJ said:

The probability of getting in accident does vary depending on some of those circumstances.  Regardless, it doesn't mean you don't take measures to control what YOU can and protect yourself.  Again it's only a "joke" up until the day it happens to you or someone you care about.  Applies to gun ownership, right to carry, car accidents/safety, COVID, going to the doctor, taking proper medications, going to the dentist, and a slough of other things that have varying probabilities to cause us harm or death.  Most impart willful ignorance and its bliss, which is fine and can be argued it's a better way to live than being overly concerned with low probability issues.  To each their own, far be it from me to criticize one or the other.  However I never like the idea of saying one should or shouldn't live one way or another in a free society, and certainly would never advocate restricting their given rights or gaslight them to feel like it's wrong in any way.

No one suggested, for sure I did not, to limit your ability to do as you please. I simply said the probability of something happening to you at home is lower than MANY other activities you engage in on daily basis. Driving for example, for many even eating.

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