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35 minutes ago, MGHunter66 said:

Most will argue with me Vito but this is a exercise in power and control. It is being weaponized by political parties to separate groups, turn people against eachother and utilized unconstitutional orders. If you really study socialism and communism this is not the first time a “crisis” was used to surrender individual rights and ruling class control

Completely agree. Millions  of people were protesting across this nations cities 2 weeks ago. The news forgot about COVID during that time. now that it’s over we are back on the COVID again. 
 

News flash to everyone..... millions of people were out protesting not wearing masks or social distancing. Many were not even from these cities, they went and brought it back home and further spread it throughout the country when we had it slowed down.  2 weeks later we see a giant COVID spike. Correlation much? Not one news channel even mentioning it......

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10 minutes ago, deadonshot2 said:

But those three things have worked. You are  not going to get to zero with those three things. But we surely flattened the curve and decreased our infection rate. And that is with increased testing. And I mean a ton of increased testing.

So what does increased testing actually do for us? Find more positive cases with zero to no symptoms? I see it doing nothing but spreading  more fear. The news reports nothing about the percentages of new pos tests vs actual symptoms associated with the diagnosis.

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1 minute ago, Mallard1100 said:

So what does increased testing actually do for us? Find more positive cases with zero to no symptoms? I see it doing nothing but spreading  more fear. The news reports nothing about the percentages of new pos tests vs actual symptoms associated with the diagnosis.

The testing is helping find where some of these things originated. Like the nightclub that has 85 cases attributed to it. It shows that business is not one that should be open during the pandemic. Nightclubs are not necessary and can become a place where the virus is spreading easily. I am sure the night club owner would disagree with me. At what price do you place on someones life?  More data allows you to make better decisions that is why testing is so important. There are a gazillion places that do testing now. I think companies like medexpress/walgreens/cvs will be doing antibody testing not that far in the future. That will gather additional info on people who had it and never knew. Or those that were diagnosed with pneumonia but it was actually covid. 

Scenario: I have an employee who goes to nightclub where people are not social distancing and most not wearing masks. They have no symptoms but are carrying the virus. We work together and the employee passes it on to me. Again I do not show symptoms either. But I now infect you because we bumped into each other because I just sneezed. You don't survive. Sucks to be you now doesn't it. But if my employee had been tested they may not have had the chance to infect me and then you would be alive. Just because it has not happened to you yet does not mean it can't or it won't. Nobody plans to die in a car crash today, but yet people did today anyway. Until there is a vaccine/treatment we all need to look out for each other.  

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7 minutes ago, deadonshot2 said:

The testing is helping find where some of these things originated. Like the nightclub that has 85 cases attributed to it. It shows that business is not one that should be open during the pandemic. Nightclubs are not necessary and can become a place where the virus is spreading easily. I am sure the night club owner would disagree with me. At what price do you place on someones life?  More data allows you to make better decisions that is why testing is so important. There are a gazillion places that do testing now. I think companies like medexpress/walgreens/cvs will be doing antibody testing not that far in the future. That will gather additional info on people who had it and never knew. Or those that were diagnosed with pneumonia but it was actually covid. 

Scenario: I have an employee who goes to nightclub where people are not social distancing and most not wearing masks. They have no symptoms but are carrying the virus. We work together and the employee passes it on to me. Again I do not show symptoms either. But I now infect you because we bumped into each other because I just sneezed. You don't survive. Sucks to be you now doesn't it. But if my employee had been tested they may not have had the chance to infect me and then you would be alive. Just because it has not happened to you yet does not mean it can't or it won't. Nobody plans to die in a car crash today, but yet people did today anyway. Until there is a vaccine/treatment we all need to look out for each other.  

The issue lies how do we negate the side effects of combatting the virus in this manner. Business close forever people out of work.  The brakes down in society when the government tit runs dry and cant pay those unemployed.  Guaranteed the riots and the autonomous zone you seen weeks ago is a small glimpse of what will be if you keep people out of work.  How long do we think mortgage companies will go without payment before foreclosure or closing their door themselves passing mortgages to other banks who want their money or kick you out of your home.  As already said this is a dangerous slope that has been seen before leading to socialism.  And I as many will take death over living under a socialist thumb

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10 minutes ago, deadonshot2 said:

The testing is helping find where some of these things originated. Like the nightclub that has 85 cases attributed to it. It shows that business is not one that should be open during the pandemic.

Where is the data to back that up. Were they at a protest beforehand? Liquor store? Home depot? Supermarket?. 
Seriously you can’t believe any reporting these days on these matters. It is easy for anyone including doctors, media, etc. to make these assumptions but in the end most are far from factual

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1 hour ago, deadonshot2 said:

Florida has been there for weeks already. Desantis hid it. That is why they had record pneumonia deaths last month. His state was like 49th worst for testing.

My oldest friend from my home town is a flight attendant.  Planes had few passengers until States started to open.   

When States opened people spent their $1200 freeby or their extra $600 unemployment and traveled to the State's that opened.  Mainly Florida  The planes are full then and are still full now.

She said most were flying for the first time.  She knew by the number of people who asked stupid questions.

We are doing now what we should have donelong ago, open and let this run it's course.  Lockdown only extent the inevitable and drag this out.

If you are compromised or a sissy then go buy a bubble and live in it!  Don't lock me up to protect you, protect yourself!

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Travel at your own risk, specifically non work related travel. I’m going away to the Adirondacks next week. If I get it, and live I will come home and use my sick time. am I missing something here.


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3 hours ago, BHC said:

MG if I'm not police then consider Conservation Officers glorified Veterinarians

Not even close. A whole different debate. You get sick, use a sick day. You get Covid on the job, free time off. A very generous gift that cost nothing in negotiations to either side.

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56 minutes ago, deadonshot2 said:

The testing is helping find where some of these things originated. Like the nightclub that has 85 cases attributed to it. It shows that business is not one that should be open during the pandemic. Nightclubs are not necessary and can become a place where the virus is spreading easily. I am sure the night club owner would disagree with me. At what price do you place on someones life?  More data allows you to make better decisions that is why testing is so important. There are a gazillion places that do testing now. I think companies like medexpress/walgreens/cvs will be doing antibody testing not that far in the future. That will gather additional info on people who had it and never knew. Or those that were diagnosed with pneumonia but it was actually covid. 

Scenario: I have an employee who goes to nightclub where people are not social distancing and most not wearing masks. They have no symptoms but are carrying the virus. We work together and the employee passes it on to me. Again I do not show symptoms either. But I now infect you because we bumped into each other because I just sneezed. You don't survive. Sucks to be you now doesn't it. But if my employee had been tested they may not have had the chance to infect me and then you would be alive. Just because it has not happened to you yet does not mean it can't or it won't. Nobody plans to die in a car crash today, but yet people did today anyway. Until there is a vaccine/treatment we all need to look out for each other.  

In reference to your scenario, which according to the data that keeps coming out day by day if you can even call it that would have been true some weeks ago. With that said, didn’t the “WHO” recently state that and I quote it would be “very rare” for asymptomatic COVID carriers to spread the disease? So in fact your scenario would be a very rare account. I’m just curious because your scenario  makes obvious sense if it were what was factually happening.... the problem is is that we still don’t know if it’s happening like you or they claim it is?  This was also the basis for the masks.  The threat from asymptomatic carriers......???

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No more crying

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Suppose you take a test because you are worried or have a stuffy nose and come back positive. Most folks just recover fine. Never showing real bad symptoms or dieing. So who is to say the testing numbers aren’t skewed. Tell people they have it even though they don’t. If the majority of people feel fine or a little sick you wouldn’t know either way. My theory: Labs are being told to produce positive results. Are we being told how many tests were given. How many negative versus positive. 
            BHC: I feel your frustration. It’s an issue that directly effects your family. You came on to vent and got a lot of pushback. Do you have to declare where vacation time is spent? If God forbid she got Covid19  she could say she was at the local Walmart before or after the trip. They can’t prove where it came from. 

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Suppose you take a test because you are worried or have a stuffy nose and come back positive. Most folks just recover fine. Never showing real bad symptoms or dieing. So who is to say the testing numbers aren’t skewed. Tell people they have it even though they don’t. If the majority of people feel fine or a little sick you wouldn’t know either way. My theory: Labs are being told to produce positive results. Are we being told how many tests were given. How many negative versus positive. 
            BHC: I feel your frustration. It’s an issue that directly effects your family. You came on to vent and got a lot of pushback. Do you have to declare where vacation time is spent? If God forbid she got Covid19  she could say she was at the local Walmart before or after the trip. They can’t prove where it came from. 

Exactly my thoughts. If I leave the state I’m required to notify my “bosses”. Sounds ridiculous but I use discretion with my notifications. If I contact it, I would do what I have to get home for treatment. Being a public servant is a double edged sword. No sense in complaining, just figure out a way to make it work. Nobody wants to hear public employees complain.


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9 hours ago, vdep217 said:

The issue lies how do we negate the side effects of combatting the virus in this manner. Business close forever people out of work.  The brakes down in society when the government tit runs dry and cant pay those unemployed.  Guaranteed the riots and the autonomous zone you seen weeks ago is a small glimpse of what will be if you keep people out of work.  How long do we think mortgage companies will go without payment before foreclosure or closing their door themselves passing mortgages to other banks who want their money or kick you out of your home.  As already said this is a dangerous slope that has been seen before leading to socialism.  And I as many will take death over living under a socialist thumb

So say we opened everything 100%. But those hogh risk people stay home. That means they are not spending their money at restaurants and stores.  So businesses will still close from lack of business. Then as casrs increase more people stop hitting restaurants and other places with a higher chance of catching the virus. Do again businesses will close. Unfortunately it is a side effect of a pandemic. The only question is how many lives are we willing to sacrifice for it. Is losing 100 lives worth losing to save one or two businesses?  The unknown will keep us questioning what we should do next. But look at facts. Ny and nj got hit hard because of international airports. We shut down. Social distancing and face masks. Now we are in a better place as a result. We kept trying to increase our testing ability. Other states closed but reopened without following CDC guidelines. They also were some of the worst states for testing. Now they are closing businesses again, isduing stay at home again and are among the biggest spread in the world.  They had covid all along but followed trump instead of cdc. As a result they killed there own residents by hiding what was going on. That is purely criminal. So hate murphy for being against many things we stand for. But he may have saved your life or my life by following the science. How many times have you seen a business owner say after a tragedy something like, i am just glad i made it out alive. I can always rebuild or do something different. Well, the business owner  who made it out alive still has thosr same choices. Did you get upset for he business owner that rented vcr tapes? Poor guy ended up out of business and it wasnt his fault that netflix came along and wiped him out. Nobodys fault pandemic came along. But we need to make changes and adjust whether we do what we hsve been doing by following the science. Or if we open fully and still lose businesses because of lack of business. I have not eaten anything prepared by a restsurant ot fast food joint since this started. I also do not plan on doing so for a long time either. And we used to dine out a couple times a week. I am sure i am not the only one that feels that way. I talk to a lot of customers and they did not plan on going to restaurants either. 

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1 hour ago, deadonshot2 said:

So say we opened everything 100%. But those hogh risk people stay home. That means they are not spending their money at restaurants and stores.  So businesses will still close from lack of business. Then as casrs increase more people stop hitting restaurants and other places with a higher chance of catching the virus. Do again businesses will close. Unfortunately it is a side effect of a pandemic. The only question is how many lives are we willing to sacrifice for it. Is losing 100 lives worth losing to save one or two businesses?  The unknown will keep us questioning what we should do next. But look at facts. Ny and nj got hit hard because of international airports. We shut down. Social distancing and face masks. Now we are in a better place as a result. We kept trying to increase our testing ability. Other states closed but reopened without following CDC guidelines. They also were some of the worst states for testing. Now they are closing businesses again, isduing stay at home again and are among the biggest spread in the world.  They had covid all along but followed trump instead of cdc. As a result they killed there own residents by hiding what was going on. That is purely criminal. So hate murphy for being against many things we stand for. But he may have saved your life or my life by following the science. How many times have you seen a business owner say after a tragedy something like, i am just glad i made it out alive. I can always rebuild or do something different. Well, the business owner  who made it out alive still has thosr same choices. Did you get upset for he business owner that rented vcr tapes? Poor guy ended up out of business and it wasnt his fault that netflix came along and wiped him out. Nobodys fault pandemic came along. But we need to make changes and adjust whether we do what we hsve been doing by following the science. Or if we open fully and still lose businesses because of lack of business. I have not eaten anything prepared by a restsurant ot fast food joint since this started. I also do not plan on doing so for a long time either. And we used to dine out a couple times a week. I am sure i am not the only one that feels that way. I talk to a lot of customers and they did not plan on going to restaurants either. 

How many businesses and jobs should we lose to prevent the less than 1% who were infected and died because they didn't protect themself or were not protected? 

You must sell masks, and covid related items.  I'm getting the feeling that you profit from covid.  Do you work for a pharmaceutical company?

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