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Of course he has his hand out looking for Federal aid but he wants enough to cover all  the wasteful spending and giveaways that he and his ilk have perpetrated for decades so he can wipe away all state deficits and begin free wheeling spending again. Will we see property or income tax relief? Hell no we won’t, it will go to more giveaways for the takers and illegals. It’s amazing how a governor that gives the federal government the finger on enforcing the laws of the land by being an openly “sanctuary state” wants them to cover the costs of the illegal activity! As the saying goes, only in America or soon to be what used to be America.

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This argument will never make sense if you really think about it. Who would shut down everything to loose money just to recover a portion of it from the feds. No logic in that!

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19 minutes ago, Lunatic said:

This argument will never make sense if you really think about it. Who would shut down everything to loose money just to recover a portion of it from the feds. No logic in that!

The amount he is asking for would be enough to get what he wants for his agandas, not to recover just the losses from covid.  He was asking for 30 billion or more.  Feds already supplied the medical needs, paid for testing, covering hospital costs, paying to keep people on a pay check, bail out businesses, extra 600 a week unemployment and stimulus checks.  Murphy wants billions to bail out the state's problems prior to covid, and to hand out more to illegals on SNAP and food stamps.  He smelled the money coming when pelosi pushed another 3 trillion bill through the house.  

This also devalues the dollar since the treasury is just printing this money without backing.  Dems see this as a way to ruin Trumps great economy before the election.  All Murphy has to do is reopen the economy like other states are doing.  Typical left wing liberal doing nothing to better things for themself,  and expecting a handout to solve the problems.

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56 minutes ago, Lunatic said:

This argument will never make sense if you really think about it. Who would shut down everything to loose money just to recover a portion of it from the feds. No logic in that!

It does to a POS liberal power hungry scumbag.

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Nothing left of the dead  horse  for me to beat.........we need to open up immediately.........

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13 minutes ago, Greybeard said:

The amount he is asking for would be enough to get what he wants for his agandas, not to recover just the losses from covid.  He was asking for 30 billion or more.  Feds already supplied the medical needs, paid for testing, covering hospital costs, paying to keep people on a pay check, bail out businesses, extra 600 a week unemployment and stimulus checks.  Murphy wants billions to bail out the state's problems prior to covid, and to hand out more to illegals on SNAP and food stamps.  He smelled the money coming when pelosi pushed another 3 trillion bill through the house.  

This also devalues the dollar since the treasury is just printing this money without backing.  Dems see this as a way to ruin Trumps great economy before the election.  All Murphy has to do is reopen the economy like other states are doing.  Typical left wing liberal doing nothing to better things for themself,  and expecting a handout to solve the problems.

I get it but you don’t burn the house you owe  $1 M on if you don’t have insurance that guarantees the $1m. All that you listed as already paid for was just additional money he already spent on corona, not to get him any part of the “$1m” on the burnt down house 

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8 hours ago, Lunatic said:

This argument will never make sense if you really think about it. Who would shut down everything to loose money just to recover a portion of it from the feds. No logic in that!

They r Murphy’s words. That’s my point. 

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13 hours ago, Lunatic said:

I get it but you don’t burn the house you owe  $1 M on if you don’t have insurance that guarantees the $1m. All that you listed as already paid for was just additional money he already spent on corona, not to get him any part of the “$1m” on the burnt down house 

If you thought you were going to get a 30 million forgivable loan for that 1 million house, even if you had to use everyone else's money to pay it back in the future?  A house that is already in disrepair.

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1 hour ago, Greybeard said:

If you thought you were going to get a 30 million forgivable loan for that 1 million house, even if you had to use everyone else's money to pay it back in the future?  A house that is already in disrepair.

Again it makes no sense since there is no way he will get what he lost in revenue during the shut down. So far he was reimbursed for money he spent on Covid and he himself does not believe to get 30 billion when state budget is a 40 billion. On average, is shut down eliminated all revenue his loss would be only 33 million/ month and we are not at zero collection. It is possible he knew the state was in trouble to begin with and this open the door to blame someone else for the shortfall. I don't blame anyone for the initial step to shut down any state. This was something new with many unanswered questions and  and risks were to high not to do it.

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Wait to see what's going to happen with the tax rates across the board.  

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The State budget is 60 billion.  Murphy is projecting a 10 billion loss of revenue over two fiscal years. 

The fiscal year is supposed to start in July but was extended to October.  

Income tax withholdings were down 7% in April and sales tax collections were down nearly 14%

Murphy is putting the squeeze on NJ residents solely to cry that Trump bailed out numerous big businesses such as airlines but wont give NJ billions, that it is trumps fault that we will be in such bad shape financially.  Murphy isn't mentioning the 9 billion that the federal government made available. 

He delayed the primary elections until July as if we can't stand 6 feet apart when voting in order to have mail in ballots.  If he opens up the State now as he should he can't justify mail in ballots.

He is a typical dem.  

 

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16 hours ago, Farmshine said:

Doug Steinhardt 2021


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Nice.  He did great for Lopat a few years ago!!!

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