Is our President blowing it?

[JimmyScags]

7 hours ago, newjerseyhunter said:

Yes, you are correct but never in history has a president run a campaign based on who would be his VP. That would for sure, be a first.

He doesn’t know it lol

[Lunatic]

6 minutes ago, deadonshot2 said:

WHAT? I said I watch trumps own words and actions to form my pov. And you respond about propaganda? I would tend to believe you are being led around by the nose by hannity's propaganda since you recite him with every reply. 

i watch almost no TV. That's why I am pure and you are damaged goods completely controlled by liberal media and you know it

[Pathman]

25 minutes ago, deadonshot2 said:

I think the polls will be a little more accurate this time around.

Based on what? 

[tcook8296]

7 hours ago, newjerseyhunter said:

Yes, you are correct but never in history has a president run a campaign based on who would be his VP. That would for sure, be a first.

Hes going to let us know who it is as soon as he remembers

[deadonshot2]

2 minutes ago, DV1 said:

You know what is great about America...you and Jim can both vote for Biden and let the modern Democratic, quasi-communist Party take the Country to a place it may never recover from. After a time like this, where people are being conditioned to accept oppression from the Government in the name of the "collective good", and rely on a determined income from the Government for how knows how long, you might not like what you have 10 years from now.  

Do you really think if the Democrats were in charge, there would be any urgency to re-open? When things do re-open, with the modern Democratic Party in charge, do you really think all your civil liberties, and Constitutional rights will come back to the level they were in January 2020?

Do you think their tax and regulation policy would allow businesses to once again flourish and expand, like we are going to need to climb out of a depression?

Do you think you will have the option for private health insurance? 

Do you think you will have the same freedoms to choose what you eat/drink , what you use to heat your home, power your car, what kind of firearm you can own, etc., 5 or 6 years from now?

Just curious if you've looked passed what happens once you get your wish and Trump is gone...what did you replace him with, that's all. 

I have stated many times here the things I think trump has done well and the things I was totally against. But I am in the camp of trump is as a big of a danger to our country as a democrat. And most here just can't see the forrest through the trees. How many people just stated trump should keep his mouth shut during this thread? It is not because he had a tough time reading (which he does). It is because he says so many stupid things. So rather not hear him making stupid comments because that would go directly against the thinking he is smart. Well even his professor said he was the dumbest student he ever had. So just because other want to believe in make believe, I don't. 

As far as you using the standard playbook and assume that if you are not a trump fan than surely one must be a dem/liberal. Again, I dislike what both parties have become and do not support either party as they are today. After jumping off the trump train in august of 2016, I was looking at Gary Johnson. I never looked at hillary- had zero interest in her from the start. Gary Johnson  just did not seem like he was fit for Potus. I understand the way the question was worded about Aleppo it could trip someone up. I knew what the reporter was asking and thought he should also but gave him benefit of the doubt. But when he could not name a world leader after several attempts he lost my vote.  So stop assuming because I dislike trump that I am rooting for a dem. I know that is what happens but would be equally disappointed. 

[deadonshot2]

2 minutes ago, Pathman said:

Based on what? 

In 2016 many people did not admit they were going to vote for trump. So the polling had a larger margin of error. This time around it is cool to vote for trump so people are more readily able to admit who they vote for this time. 

[Bojaffa]

In my opinion if you watch the clip of Trump talking about UV lite and heat as well as disinfectants it seems he is brain storming ideas. He says to the experts and Dr.’s let’s look into the possibilities. The MSM makes it sound like he just told everyone to drink bleach or shootup with some sort of cleanser. I thought Wolf Blitzer was going to have a stroke when Trump walked off today. He should. He doesn’t need to stand there for hours getting hammered and providing fodder for the Talking Heads. Just once I would like to see a positive comment from CNN. Maybe about all the hospital beds and the ship sent to King Cuomo at the presidents direction. They could really help their own credibility. 

[tcook8296]

I dont understand why someone would vote for someone who has absolutely no chance of winning or even worse not vote at all then complain the next 4 years. Trying to figure that out. 

[Pathman]

1 minute ago, deadonshot2 said:

In 2016 many people did not admit they were going to vote for trump. So the polling had a larger margin of error. This time around it is cool to vote for trump so people are more readily able to admit who they vote for this time. 

Don’t agree, if your opinion is that the same base for each exists (I think that was you who stated that) and neither he nor Biden will change their already established base. Who says it’s “cool to vote for Trump” now? if it’s his base, the polls will be the same, just as inaccurate as last time. 
Don’t forget the impact of the phrasing of the poll questions by the same biased media as 2016, don’t think for a second that’s gonna change. 

[DV1]

13 minutes ago, deadonshot2 said:

But I am in the camp of trump is as a big of a danger to our country as a democrat. And most here just can't see the forrest through the trees. ... It is because he says so many stupid things. .... Well even his professor said he was the dumbest student he ever had. So just because other want to believe in make believe, I don't. 

As far as you using the standard playbook and assume that if you are not a trump fan than surely one must be a dem/liberal. Again, I dislike what both parties have become and do not support either party as they are today. 

That's cool, I know I'm not going to change your mind, so vote for Biden, or don't vote, which will help Biden. Just look to what you're getting in return for those actions.

As far as Trumps record goes, I can't believe anyone who values our Constitution, traditional American values and prefers Capitalism over big Government Socialism would think Trump is not a better option, or could not appreciate what good he has done vs what the alternatives are/were. It's certainly not rational thinking, but maybe just hate for his personality that leads to that. 

Edited April 24, 2020 by DV1

[Bojaffa]

Just close your eyes and imagine Hilary in charge right now. Then when you open them close them again and picture Joe Biden in charge. I like what I have right now. And maybe Mike Pence in 2024. 

[Pathman]

I think many Americans, myself included to a degree in this situation, would much rather have the guy They may not be crazy about, but is getting the job done, and accomplishing the things that we value and are good for the country, as opposed to a guy that we might like, that doesn’t accomplish a damn thing and sells America short!

[DV1]

6 minutes ago, Pathman said:

I think many Americans, myself included to a degree in this situation, would much rather have the guy They may not be crazy about, but is getting the job done, and accomplishing the things that we value and are good for the country, as opposed to a guy that we might like, that doesn’t accomplish a damn thing and sells America short!

I'm hoping even the fence-sitters will feel that way once the Biden's China connections are exposed during the campaign, since China policy is likely to be a big issue. However, if the media refuses to cover it, as they have the FISA abuses and malfeasance by Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and others, and the defined plot to over-throw President Trump, which it clearly was, we may have a Biden Presidency...for a few days anyway. 

Edited April 24, 2020 by DV1

[Scotty155]

One thing is for sure, the independent party will have good support, if the election is between trump and biden.  Probably not enough to win but i would expect a very big increase in support.

Biden seems clueless and is getting worse which is is going to have Democrats question if he can effectively represent them, plausibly leading dems to vote independent.

Trump is certainly a polarizing president. His views on climate change i predict will have some constituents leaving the conservative party in favor of independent,  if the independent party has a strong nominee.  

 

 

 

Edited April 24, 2020 by Scotty155

[Lunatic]

43 minutes ago, deadonshot2 said:

In 2016 many people did not admit they were going to vote for trump. So the polling had a larger margin of error. This time around it is cool to vote for trump so people are more readily able to admit who they vote for this time. 

This time around he has a solid record. Last time it was a big maybe, which was much better than the people you vote for.