The slight "quarter to" shot - WORST ANGLE IMHO

[archer36]

1 hour ago, mazzgolf said:

How about this shot? Personally, I wouldn't have made that shot. I think the kid got lucky. Didn't have to track it far though, and a good blood trail made it easy to find. 

 

I made the same shot on a deer about 5 years ago with a crossbow at 15 yds. Just spun around and died. Could see the blood gushing as it turned. 

[JHbowhunter]

2 minutes ago, archer36 said:

I made the same shot on a deer about 5 years ago with a crossbow at 15 yds. Just spun around and died. Could see the blood gushing as it turned. 

I think it's better than two shot angles taken in  the video link I posted. That's a shot -where I would want a big ass mechanical to just tear it all up heading over or through heart and into lung area, knowing I won't have two holes.  

[vdep217]

2 hours ago, mazzgolf said:

How about this shot? Personally, I wouldn't have made that shot. I think the kid got lucky. Didn't have to track it far though, and a good blood trail made it easy to find. 

 

Inside of 20 yrds it is very lethal and common in elk hunting..  he did not get lucky he put the arrow where it needed to be..

[JHbowhunter]

4 minutes ago, vdep217 said:

Inside of 20 yrds it is very lethal and common in elk hunting..  he did not get lucky he put the arrow where it needed to be..

the more I look at that - it's not straight on and it probably double lunged the elk.  Very front of right lung, very back of left lung.  Top of heart too or the arteries at minimum. 

[hammer4reel]

8 minutes ago, JHbowhunter said:

the more I look at that - it's not straight on and it probably double lunged the elk.  Very front of right lung, very back of left lung.  Top of heart too or the arteries at minimum. 

Im thinking juglar

[MGHunter66]

Im thinking juglar

You are correct, anytime blood just comes out like a running hose its a main artery or vein. Lungs and heart are pulsating squirts


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[MGHunter66]

I had this buck at 15-20 yards head on this November turned quartering away when I took the shot he turns sharp quartering away hit a major artery, in my opinion bad shot. But made it 50 yards dead and never broke the gut sack either. No pass through.

Yep you got lucky


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[vdep217]

15 minutes ago, hammer4reel said:

Im thinking juglar

That was my first thought but with the blood loss and lack of spraying it was more pouringin thinking aorta

[Live to Hunt]

Would never take the shot with bow never even crossed my mind. Broadside or quartering away. 

[Lphunsjr]

I always try to take good shots, broadside or quartering away,,,,,,,,but I shot my target buck in the ass,,,,so what do I know,  . All kidding aside, I would pass on a quartering too shot 100% of the time. That last light shot taught me a valuable lesson,,,,never "try" a shot again!

[JHbowhunter]

Just now, Live to Hunt said:

Would never take the shot with bow never even crossed my mind. Broadside or quartering away. 

Todd the issue is  - these are TV show professionals, and even  they didn't realize how the deer were not "quartering to".....      Its such a slight angle - if the same angle were reversed and quartering away, it's NEVER and issue and always a dead deer and probably "drop in sight"....       That is the message here.   ONCE A DEER GOES FROM BROADSIDE TO QUARTERNG "TO" - THE GAME CHANGES DRAMATICALLY

[Live to Hunt]

6 minutes ago, JHbowhunter said:

Todd the issue is  - these are TV show professionals, and even  they didn't realize how the deer were not "quartering to".....      Its such a slight angle - if the same angle were reversed and quartering away, it's NEVER and issue and always a dead deer and probably "drop in sight"....       That is the message here.   ONCE A DEER GOES FROM BROADSIDE TO QUARTERNG "TO" - THE GAME CHANGES DRAMATICALLY

Did I miss something 

[MGHunter66]

Did I miss something 

Just this

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[Greybeard]

4 hours ago, mazzgolf said:

How about this shot? Personally, I wouldn't have made that shot. I think the kid got lucky. Didn't have to track it far though, and a good blood trail made it easy to find. 

 

I've taken many shots there.   Farthest was under 20 yards, usually 10 or a little farther.   All died in sight with a red carpet trail.  My broadside and angling away shots don't come close to that recovery percentage.  Especially while elevated,  the arrow will pass through the heart before coming out the bottom behind the legs.   Not a shot to take if you take long shots, but it's very deadly up close, taking into account one can hit where they aim.

Edited December 29, 2018 by Greybeard

[Pathman]

Good video and insight from the dad. However, without the luxury of video, I guarantee they, and 99% of hunters, would be swearing to heaven that they made a perfect shot. 

To your point JH, just like you sometimes don’t realize the Deer has taken a slight step sideways (because you’re eiter focused on your POA which is good, or antlers, which is bad😱!) and now gives you a QT shot angle, it looks like a perfect shot going in, but the angle makes it less than perfect overall, and sometimes a lost Deer. 

Side note, did any of you see a scar from the first time he shot it? I thought I did but then another angle it didn’t appear to have a scar.