Quik question..Did i break the law?..

[Axiom]

• OK so, this  morning i took one of my sons to the BRWMA for his Hunters Ed tests.. Before going home, with my Shot gun still in the car,  we went to Ramseys Outdoor in Succasunna to get his license, from there we went to the Chester Diner for lunch ...and then home.. 

 

 

 So did i break the Law because i didnt go home first and drop off the gun?..

[BHC]

only breaking the law when you get caught

[Axiom]

Well, if i got caught would i then be in violation of the law?

[BHC]

under the law, yes. you can transport your firearm in your car from your home to: hunting area, gunsmith, range, and back home, must be cased ammo stored away from the firearm. you can't stop with the firearm in your car like you did, but people do it everyday

[Axiom]

well, as far as i know under the law i can take "such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances"..  so, i guess my question is, would you or anyone else consider what i did "reasonably necessary"?

[Haskell_Hunter]

It's less how you interpret it and more how the courts interpret it.

 

Read this brief that was recently filed.  You'll see that people who have made reasonably necessary deviations have been arrested and imprisoned as a result.

[Axiom]

 

Read this brief

 

 

ok .... but   ??????.. wheres the brief?..

[Haskell_Hunter]

ok .... but   ??????.. wheres the brief?..

 

That would help, wouldn't it?  

 

http://www.nj2as.com/Resources/PDF/pantano.pdf

[Axiom]

 

That would help, wouldn't it?

 

 

 

 

. ..Yes...

[Axiom]

 

Read this brief that was recently filed. You'll see that people who have made reasonably necessary deviations have been arrested and imprisoned as a result.

 

 

some of those cases were extreme and ALL of them were more about hand guns and hollow point bullets than the scenario i discribed so, i'm not sure how much of that, if any,  would apply in my case...

Edited October 7, 2013 by Axiom

[Haskell_Hunter]

A few things you need to keep in mind:

 

1 - It's not about your interpretation of the law, it's the LEO and the judge.  That's all that matters.

2 - The law is ambiguous and leaves it incredibly open to interpretation, which means it will be inconsistently applied.  See #1.

3 - The brief takes to extreme and harsh examples of what can happen to you in NJ if you get in front of the less-desirable LEOs and judges.  You get imprisoned.  So it can happen to you, and the worst case is that you spend some quality time in jail, and if you get the right lawyer, you might get out in a few days.

 

So under one interpretation of the law, you are in violation of one or more NJ statues.  Worst case you spend some time in jail.  The brief should demonstrate that this shit happens, and no one is going to listen to you until you lawyer-up.  That's NJ.

[Axiom]

 

The brief should demonstrate that this shit happens, and no one is going to listen to you until you lawyer-up. That's NJ.

 

 

 Thats true... Its Pathetic how this state works.. thus my avatar...

[Bucksnbows]

First rule when driving anywhere in NJ with a legal gun is that you are always on your way to the gun range.  Or on your way directly home.  Who are all these people getting pulled over and having their trunks inspected?  I don't know a single person that has undergone that scenario.   

[Haskell_Hunter]

First rule when driving anywhere in NJ with a legal gun is that you are always on your way to the gun range.  Or on your way directly home.  Who are all these people getting pulled over and having their trunks inspected?  I don't know a single person that has undergone that scenario.   

 

A business associate of mine who is new to firearms was recently pulled over for a minor traffic violation.  He thought it was proper etiquette to tell the LEO that he had a trunk full of guns.  The LEO sighed, asked him to step out of the car and then proceeded to search and inspect every weapon.  After it was all said and done, (and everyone was very polite and professional throughout), he asked the officer what he had done wrong.  The LEO replied that once he was told there were weapons in the car, he had probably cause and was obliged to search.  Everything was okay, so there wasn't any issue, but the LEO said, the next time you get pulled over and everything is properly stored in the trunk, there's no need to inform the LEO.

 

I'm just lucky enough to hang out with people who get into these kinds of situations.

[Axiom]

A business associate of mine who is new to firearms was recently pulled over for a minor traffic violation. He thought it was proper etiquette to tell the LEO that he had a trunk full of guns.

 

 

     .. those newbies are funny aint they?.. 

 

  " proper etiquette to tell the LEO he had a trunk full of guns"....  ..... 

 

It's really sad what this state does to honest people... Everything may have tirned out OK for him but, for many others?.. probably not...