jerseyhunter Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 I've seen a fawn in Dec. on the side of the road with spots. I'm thinking the ones born late is the reason there still mating into Jan and Feb.
Palawman30 Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Late born fawns show a direct correlation with improper buck to doe ratios and an overall entirely to large a deer herd. It normally takes fawns that are born late almost 2 1/2 years to catch up body/skeletal system wise fawns that are born on a normal schedule PredaTorch.com Hot Estrous Doe and Other Deer Scent, Night Predator Lights
NJPAhunter2413 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 they look delicious It's not a passion; It's an obsession ducks n bucks 24/7
BowhunterNJ Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I'll never forget hunting one frigid morning in mid December when I was younger I saw a fawn with spots. All I could think of was that fawn was in for a rough winter.
Palawman30 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Fantastic pics.... you said the date was wrong. When do you think the pictures were taken? PredaTorch.com Hot Estrous Doe and Other Deer Scent, Night Predator Lights
Palawman30 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 last week the pics were takin Holy Crap!!!! Are they late..... Good thing is momma got them through the winter. Is that the pine barrens? PredaTorch.com Hot Estrous Doe and Other Deer Scent, Night Predator Lights
robnj Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 Holy Crap!!!! Are they late..... Good thing is momma got them through the winter. Is that the pine barrens? yes its the pines. they look about half the size of the other fawns i have been seeing.
Palawman30 Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 yes its the pines. they look about half the size of the other fawns i have been seeing. I think Im more amazed a yote or dog didn't get them. Jersey fawns aren't very big to begin with. They cant be more than 20-30 pounds? Look in the 4th pic down at the fawn on the left. See it nipping the bud/browse. A normal deer needs 3-4 POUNDS a day of that to survive. Can you imagine trying to nip 3-4 pounds of browse a day in that habitat? They are truly amazing animals PredaTorch.com Hot Estrous Doe and Other Deer Scent, Night Predator Lights
Spent Brass Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 A lot of green briar in jersey they will eat it in the winter.I have seen quite a few small deer .late in the year but they are really small for march. Hunting and fishing is not a sport to me its a way of life:rock:
Palawman30 Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 A lot of green briar in jersey they will eat it in the winter.I have seen quite a few small deer .late in the year but they are really small for march. Deer will definitely eat green briar although its not native or preferred. Im actually surprised your dcnr hasn't tried burns there with some type of tree or shrub plantings. I know they do burns, but what usually sprout after burns are striped maple then oak which takes longer. Deer will hit the oak before maple though wiping it out before it has a chance. I like what your dcnr did in north jersey with the autumn olive. Its everywhere now. All it takes is a couple bushes and then birds mainly turkey and grouse as well as bear feed on the berries spreading it through their droppings. It makes for good browse though once they take hold PredaTorch.com Hot Estrous Doe and Other Deer Scent, Night Predator Lights
Spent Brass Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Autumn olive is invasive as hell and have never seen it browsed.I ripped a ton of it out at my cabin as a forester suggested and do some.hinge cutting in the winter for them mostly maple.I planted 75 whit oak trees that were given to me 3 years ago from the forester and I am suprised that most of the made it so far.I think I only lost 12 trees so far and the rest are growing at a pretty good clip.I also planted some saw tooth oak and the grow fast as hell I put them in at 3 feet tall and the tallest one is about 11 feet in 2 years.I give up with fruit trees anymore the bears destroy them fenced not fenced this one bear is a pain in the Ass.And never around come hunting season.I came out of my cabin on night last summer and caught him trying to climb in the .open window of my truck to get a empty arbys bag haha.Called the game commision a million times trap him and they tried for a month with no sucess. Hunting and fishing is not a sport to me its a way of life:rock:
Palawman30 Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I actually have seen deer browse autumn olive if they have poor browse to choose from already. I think I like it because of the other species that hit it hard. it is invasive and non native. Its hard to get oak to grow if the deer pop. is high. You must have decent natural browse around your camp if deer aren't hitting it hard. It has to reach a height of around 6-7' to get away from deer. Have you tried copping some oaks and see what kind of regeneration you get from the stumps? PredaTorch.com Hot Estrous Doe and Other Deer Scent, Night Predator Lights
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