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Posted 02/02/13 - 05:06 PM
I am a member and I like to see what they have done for bow hunters here in NJ. I want to learn more about the deer management hunts and see if it is expanding.
Posted 02/02/13 - 05:14 PM
I am a member, I pay dues every year but that's about it. I wear the flag on my truck.
Not that I am soliciting an invitation to a meeting or anything, but I haven't received any correspondence concerning such. If you happen to get a flyer, let us know.
Posted 02/02/13 - 05:19 PM
Posted 02/02/13 - 05:19 PM
Posted 02/02/13 - 05:27 PM
Posted 02/02/13 - 05:28 PM
Posted 02/02/13 - 05:34 PM
What I think can be done better is having a greater presence throughout the state at venues other than the typical bow shoots and outdoor shows. It would appear that the old "preaching to the choir" situation has taken hold of UBNJ's efforts on expansion. I'm not saying don't go to the typical venues, I'm saying expand to other areas such as 4-H, scouts, etc, to reach a broader audience for potential new members.
Also, I feel better communication with the other hunting organizations in NJ would be of great benefit to all.
Well, I may as well go all in! LOL I think the entire Community Deer Management Program should be restructured. It appears from many posts on "other sites" and other input, that this is a major bone of contention among members and non-members alike. There is a "perception" that the program is not on the level, so until that is changed, and the communication regarding these hunts are made clear, it will continue to impede UBNJ's potential growth.
I make these statements because I would like to see UBNJ expand the membership ranks, have a bigger voice in the debate, and carry more influence, than it currently does.
Posted 02/02/13 - 06:28 PM
Posted 02/02/13 - 06:43 PM
so are both my girls. 10 years old and 8 years old.
in south jersey there isn't many meetings. i have been to a few. they have a property or two to hunt down here. i just never looked into them.
i am not active by any means. i do stand behind most of what UBNJ pushed for. can't say i stand behind them 100%. that is just difference of opinion of said topic.
i have never heard of UBNJ hunt problems down here.
United Bowhunters of New Jersey
Posted 02/02/13 - 07:02 PM
That's how it it now, they post all the hunts on the UBNJ web site, you just need to take a few mins to look.
, I firmly believe they should inform the members on what is available and the member then chooses if they want to join in on the hunt.
Posted 02/02/13 - 07:25 PM
Posted 02/02/13 - 07:38 PM
I am a big hunter bow hunter too.
Posted 02/02/13 - 08:31 PM
Posted 02/02/13 - 08:32 PM
As for our management hunts anyone who has applied and passed the test and orientation was allowed into the hunt as long as the quota set by the hunt host was not met. Most people who bash the hunts are the ones who could not past the shooting test or broke rules and were removed from the hunt. Again if the hunt application period is posted in June and you contact me in Oct. to be in the hunt after it is filled you can not expect us to make an exception that would set a bad precedent and is unrealistic. I will tell you though a couple hunts did not fill up in good deer country this year, 2 gentlemen who are both UBP and UBNJ members inquired about hunting winter bow season. They met up with the hunt manager passed the test and have had the property all to themselves and are filling their freezer. They did not have any "connections" but got into an open hunt.
Bottom line is we cannot fix what we do not know is broken so contact us a we will strive to make it better. And remember we are the only state bowhunting organization fighting for bowhunters rights in NJ. If you have any concerns pm me I'l send you my phone number and we will talk I'll even meet you and buy the coffee. I dont know what more we can do. Thanks
John P. Erndl Jr President UBNJ
Posted 02/02/13 - 08:47 PM
Posted 02/02/13 - 08:54 PM
Posted 02/02/13 - 09:02 PM
1) To end bowseason statewide by Jan 31st. We feel a big reason the apr zones are not getting the return they think they should is because the bucks are protected for 4 months then are killed as sheds in Feb.
2) Reduce the total number of bucks tags to 3, make them good for all seasons but no more than one can be used in any given season.
3) Make WMA's there own regulation set. WMA's in unlimited areas with seasons into Feb. are being decimated. They are not the cause of the deer problem therefore they should be treated differently than private land with no hunter access that are the problem.
4) Let the council know we are against taking away the chance to shoot a buck in the zone that are open early in Sept. if they feel there will be too much time wasted by CO's checking doe call ins. Do away with eab all together, if a person uses their ONE fall bow buck tag on Sept 10th or Oct 10th what is the defference? Plus a bowhunter who shoots a buck early will continue to bowhunt and shoot antlerless deer until permit season opens in Nov.
These are a few of the things we were trying to get off teh top of my head. As I said none were enacted but it doesnt mean we wont keep trying. If there is anything you would like to see put into the code. Write me and I'll incorporate it into my letter next year as long as it is constructive and feasible. Most of what we ask for is because members ask us for it, we dont just dream this stuff up.
Thanks the Northern Region members meeting is coming up this month and a Central region members meeting is being planned for April. Please come out and meet us and ask questions.
Posted 02/02/13 - 09:31 PM
Just like the many guys who said they would not hunt early season if they couldn't kill a buck, the same thing happens "after" many guys kill their buck. Once the "buck incentive" is removed the hunting slows down dramatically until the permit season comes in and another buck tag is available. I don't know if that is something the Division takes into consideration or not, but that may be a downside of allowing a buck tag to be used early without a doe being required first.
Posted 02/02/13 - 09:51 PM
Posted 02/02/13 - 09:58 PM
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