If you take away unionized government workers, the union work force stands at about 10% of our labor force. Who is doing all the work in this country if you say only union workers can do it? Who?
I live in union environment for almost 30 years now. I am in unique position to watch both union and none union contractors work side by side and I can assure you the non-union workers outwork their counter parts by a mile.
If what you say above was true:
"There is not enough of a qualified non union labor force to build what we do in a reasonable time frame.
Union Halls have an unlimited pool of skilled workers to move with the flow of a jobs time schedule, easily going from 1 to a 100 or more men with few glitches.
Their is no way a non union contractor can do that.
Its just not possible for them to train and carry the amount of manpower on a yearly basis."
then unions would have no problems competing with non-union contractors. Yet they refuse to do that,,...Why? The reason is the non-union contractors can do it faster for less money and that's a fact.
I will tell you one more thing. Unions kill jobs in America. In NJ we pay almost $80/hr for a non-skilled union laborer. How many willing Americans could you hire on open market and how many more miles of road could we built or fix if we just let people compete for their jobs?
Again, if any of what you say was true, unions would allow other Americans to compete for their jobs, and they don't.
we aren't trying to compete on the smaller work. A hiring hall isn't necessary for them.
right now to man a big job all it takes is a phone call to fill a 50 man job.
at todays pace of jobs being built you couldn't find 50 qualified electricians in the time frame they want the job built.
I have currently run over 190 million dollars worth of electrical projects, and can tell you there is NO WAY we can be competed against, both cost wise and speed wise.
this week we will start a data center for Bloomburg, job was bid last week.
awarded this week, and needs to be completed turn key by the first week in MAY.
you couldn't find qualified help in that time frame let alone build it.
the hourly amount your stating is what is costs the contractor to pay the man, pay his health benefits, pay his retirement as well as their profit. Total package
If your not making that much, you should join a union instead of bashing one, as I make a hell of a lot more than that.
REMEMBER a union tradesman gets no vacation, no sick days , no holiday pay ( unless your a foreman) .
you only get paid the days you work .
I have to know how to work on every type of electrical system from 10 volts to 35000 volts.
Your not going to find many guys with that experience unless your hiring from a skilled labor hall
and as far as competing for our jobs, they do it on a daily basis. The non union boss makes 3 times what my boss does while paying his worker 25% of what I make.
Unions spread the wealth around to all those working, not just to the owner of the company.
Edited by hammer4reel, 02/12/18 - 02:22 PM.