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"Rage" type hypodermic broadheads


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#1 Male ONLINE   John B

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Posted 01/12/18 - 05:55 PM

14 dollars for 12 of these. First shot from Matrix 380 at 30 yards was exact field point impact. Blades opened on impact, one blade was open completely, the other partly. Both fully open a fraction of an inch after impact. I was shooting into a paper bag packed with news paper, so I could check this. See pictures. Blades are sharp, but could be sharper. I was using the black shock collar, as the red Hi energy ones did not arrive yet, seemed to work fine. One blade bent after first shot. Second shot, second blade bent. The point and body of the head showed no damage.Don't care as these are one shot throw aways. They held up well firing into a dense soild target. My initial impression is they are a screaming bargain.

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#2 Male OFFLINE   BHC

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Posted 01/12/18 - 06:05 PM

These are Chinese knock offs?

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Posted 01/12/18 - 06:15 PM

Has to be, eBay sells the hell out of them. a really has a law suit against these people but nothing is happening.
Compare a real rage to this stuff use like comparing a battleship to picture of a battleship.
With that said, I don't use mechanical, tune your bows!

LET EM GO SO HE CAN GROW


#4 Male OFFLINE   JHbowhunter

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Posted 01/12/18 - 06:22 PM

Would not take a chance on live game with those. But that’s just me.
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#5 Male OFFLINE   JerseyJaysTaxidermy

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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:02 PM

Would not take a chance on live game with those. But that’s just me.

Maybe on small game.. predator arrow, etc.
I'd be hesitant on bigger boned animals, worrying the blades would snap off on the first strong rib to shoulder blade.



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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:03 PM

 Blades are sharp, but could be sharper.  

One blade bent after first shot. 

Two GREAT reasons NOT to use these.  Good review.

 

I shot one deer with a RAGE Hypodermic (so far) it went through the first shoulder and stuck in the second completely destroying it.  The deer went maybe fifteen yards.  I actually had to work to get to get the broadhead out, but when I did it was still intact and could be used again with new blades.  I don't have to use the above broadheads to know they will not do this.  Let it rip  :laughing: 


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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:05 PM

Lots of guys have done reviews on the knock offs.

They are very simaler in most ways , EXCEPT they are made from cheaper materials.

And while they work about the same as a Real RAGE , they have been found to break and bend much easier.

That being said as long as they worked the one time they were shot, who cares if it has to be thrown away.

at a buck a piece, you should expect to chuck it after using it.

I throw 15 dollar heads away after harvesting a deer with them too, so def would rather throw a dollar head away


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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:10 PM

Why would anyone go cheap on one of the most important parts of their equipment. I truly don’t understand this. Maybe it’s just me
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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:17 PM

Why would anyone go cheap on one of the most important paitrts of their equipment. I truly don’t understand this. Maybe it’s just me

one of the best broad heads I have shot were 8 dollars for 3. Carbon express quad pro. I only don't use any more because they are hard to find now. I still use cut on contact but wnt to montec.

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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:19 PM

Why would anyone go cheap on one of the most important parts of their equipment. I truly don’t understand this. Maybe it’s just me

I agree! That's why I shoot a fixed blade  :D


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#11 Male OFFLINE   JHbowhunter

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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:29 PM

I just shoot my BH over and over again, give it the spin test and sharpen after each deer... At $13 for a VPA, it probably has worked out to about a buck a head (or 6 bucks  and 7 does to a head LOL)


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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:33 PM

I just shoot my BH over and over again, give it the spin test and sharpen after each deer... At $13 for a VPA, it probably has worked out to about a buck a head (or 6 bucks  and 7 does to a head LOL)

 

How many times can you sharpen a head before it doesn't hit the same spot ??
​I cringe every time you say that, as even a difference of 5 grains can make POI way different at longer yardages


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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:36 PM

How many times can you sharpen a head before it doesn't hit the same spot ??
​I cringe every time you say that, as even a difference of 5 grains can make POI way different at longer yardages

 

Most touch ups are more of a polish on leather strop with stropping compound... I have never noticed a difference. I should get a good scale someday just to check. I think my record is 10 on one head and that was before i went from 100 to 125gr...    That one got buried in a white oak after zipping through a Basking Ridge 9pt.   Lost one this year on my ohio buck - arrow broke off, and although my buddy did find it not far from impact several weeks later and sent me picture, he lost it on the quad ride out of there.  So that's two lost heads since using them since 2010. 

 

 I have had one ferule bend because I stuck the front leg knuckle through the heart, deer took a step and ripped insert out of arrow, cracked arrow and slightly bent ferule...  

 

So figure about 30 deer, 1 head lost but would have been good if my buddy didn't lose it, one stuck in a tree, and one bent...  The rest are all still good to go. 100gr heads i gave to my buddy, and now have 11 of 12 125s...  I suspect i won't need any for rest of my life. 


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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:39 PM

Most touch ups are more of a polish on leather strop with stropping compound... I have never noticed a difference. 

 

OK so your honing your broadheads between deer, Not sharpening them  :shock: 


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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:50 PM

OK so your honing your broadheads between deer, Not sharpening them  :shock:

 

if the edge is still good it just returns them to shaving hair...



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Posted 01/12/18 - 07:57 PM

I am far from convinced on these. Ever deer I have taken had been a fixed head. I will do alot more tests before I think about deer hunting with them. The shock collar they come with are a joke, almost impossible to tell if its lined up correctly and they are not the proper strength for a crossbow.

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Posted 01/12/18 - 08:21 PM

Why cheap out on fing broad heads

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Posted 01/12/18 - 08:26 PM

I am far from convinced on these. Ever deer I have taken had been a fixed head. I will do alot more tests before I think about deer hunting with them. The shock collar they come with are a joke, almost impossible to tell if its lined up correctly and they are not the proper strength for a crossbow.

I use the regular hypodermic heads in my xbow. I put a dental rubber band on all my mechanicals.
I've never had a head open its just my own paranoia. Lol.
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Posted 01/12/18 - 09:05 PM

My son used  Rage Hypodermic Crossbow heads with the new red shock collars on his buck this fall. Very impressed with the results and love them. With all the money spent on equipment, clothing, stands, gear etc, I feel more confident screwing on a quality broadhead and choose to save money elsewhere. The broadhead is the most vital part of one's setup in my opinion...

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Posted 01/12/18 - 11:46 PM

I look at it this way..

I shoot 3-5 deer a season with my bow..
I throw away my rages after each shot.
For 40-80$ /year I rather have quality heads that won't break in half before exiting the opposite side of the deer..
The few deer a year I shoot at I want to find.

Those are probably fine for turkey, fox, coyote, groundhogs, etc.


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