nmc02 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 i guess if you suck at aiming get those rages. Improve your odds...no one is always perfect except Levi Morgan & you, obviously Thunderchicken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lphunsjr Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I have used Nap SpitFires and Grim Reaper Razor tip Crossbow heads. The Reaper is the only one now that I shoot. Both good heads and very similar, but to me the Grim Reaper is better quality. I shot both deer this year and both dropped in sight. Thunderchicken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 I have only used grim reaper when it comes to mechanicals and all have dropped pretty much on the spot so not much to follow. I have noticed something I can’t figure out. I have used thunderheads on recurve, compound and xbow. All deer shot with the recurve and compound left stand up straight and follow bloodtrails. Blood everywhere and at recovery it looked like gobblengrunts... a murder scene LOL but the same thunderheads out of the xbow left minimal if any bloodtrail, i have no idea why. One doe at 10 yards i hit solid heart/lung midway high entrance and downward out the armpit exit. I watched her drop 40yrds away. I walked back and forth looking for blood and I couldn’t find any. Upon gutting the cavity was full of blood, how the heck does that happen when the exit is on the lowest point of the chest cavity? Has anyone else experienced this? This is what I mean. Double lung broadside, down angle. I watch the deer drop inside 25 to 40 yards. No blood trail, or very little. Issue is when I am on ground hunting and can't see them drop, or they changed direction, and loose site in the early season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderchicken Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 i guess if you suck at aiming get those rages. Your name is 12 gauge? Your opinion has no merit!! :rofl: Mathews Halon United Bowhunters of NJ NWTF - Tri County Longbeards New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Blade Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 100 gr. 3 blade muzzy....went less then 30 yds and look at blood trail in background. Only 1 3/16". Edited January 7, 2018 by 3Blade Live to Hunt 1 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) I too am looking for a good mechanical for a crossbow. There are several threads over on AT now about them, but it gets confusing with all the different opinions on what's best. I shot thunderheads with no problems out of my compound, but switched to slick tricks for better flight out of the crossbow and have had poor blood trails except for heart shots. I read rear deploying heads are better because you want the blades to open before going in, to make a big entrance wound. You may not get an exit hole with a big blade. Hunting from the ground now doesn't help since there is no low exit hole. Killzones and grim reaper will be two I'm going to consider. Edited January 7, 2018 by Greybeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmc02 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 100 gr. 3 blade muzzy....went less then 30 yds and look at blood trail in background. Only 1 3/16". Placement is everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderchicken Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I too am looking for a good mechanical for a crossbow. There are several threads over on AT now about them, but it gets confusing with all the different opinions on what's best. I shot thunderheads with no problems out of my compound, but switched to trick slicks for better flight out of the crossbow and have had poor blood trails except for heart shots. I read rear deploying heads are better because you want the blades to open before going in, to make a big entrance wound. You may not get an exit hole with a big blade. Hunting from the ground now doesn't help since there is no low exit hole. Killzones and grim reaper will be two I'm going to consider. GB I can only speak from my experience with my xbow. My son and I have shot 4 does and 1 buck with the 125 grain newer xbow rages and they've only gone 40yards or less. I use a fixed head on my compound. GL Live to Hunt 1 Mathews Halon United Bowhunters of NJ NWTF - Tri County Longbeards New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer4reel Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Killed deer with over 50 heads at this point. The one I seen the least amount of blood from is the Toxic. while I have yet to see a deer shot with one go 40 yards. . Most consistant blood from a fixed blade has been both the Thunderhead 100 and the Muzzy 100. Most consistant expandable has been the Grim Reaper whitetail special. Thunderchicken and not on the rug 2 Captain Dan Bias REELMUSIC SPORTFISHING 50# Striper live release club. http://reelmusicsportfishing.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Horns Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I like NAP Spitfire 100's. I have been using them for many years and they have served me well. Thunderchicken 1 I'm your Huckleberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not on the rug Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I have only used grim reaper when it comes to mechanicals and all have dropped pretty much on the spot so not much to follow. I have noticed something I can’t figure out. I have used thunderheads on recurve, compound and xbow. All deer shot with the recurve and compound left stand up straight and follow bloodtrails. Blood everywhere and at recovery it looked like gobblengrunts... a murder scene LOL but the same thunderheads out of the xbow left minimal if any bloodtrail, i have no idea why. One doe at 10 yrds i hit solid heart/lung midway high entrance and downward out the armpit exit. I watched her drop 40yrds away. I walked back and forth looking for blood and I couldn’t find any. Upon gutting the cavity was full of blood, how the heck does that happen when the exit is on the lowest point of the chest cavity? Has anyone else experienced this? The only time I've experienced this has been with smaller fixed heads like Montecs. Perfect double lung shots, low exits (sometimes armpit exits) and virtually no blood trail to follow at all. The heads make a nice internal wound, but somehow it closes up and all the blood stays in the cavity. I don't know if its fat that plugs the wound or the meat just seals back up, but I have experienced that a handful of times with smaller fixed blade heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George79 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Dead Ringer Broadheads are all I use now. Here's the Freak Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer4reel Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 George, I liked the DR freak nasty, but found the O ring whistled more than I liked. I see the new one no longer uses the O rings like the one you posted. Have you shot the new heads ?? Their containment band is totally different Captain Dan Bias REELMUSIC SPORTFISHING 50# Striper live release club. http://reelmusicsportfishing.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midwestxpress Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 You know your not going to get an answer because everyone's using the best in their minds. And if they loose a deer its the heads fault. Buy from a reputable company and come to your own conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamprat Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Rage hypodermic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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