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bear harvest numbers are low


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#1 Male OFFLINE   mazzgolf

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Posted 10/11/17 - 04:29 PM

I doubt we'll hit half what the numbers were last year. IMO, the weather is the cause - hunters stayed home due to the rain, and the bears stayed home due to the heat. I also still think the large harvest last year helped thin out the numbers. I think this year's hunt just shows what a success the management hunt last year was. I bet the number of reported bear encounters was lower than years past, too.

 

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The N.J. bear hunt enters a third day Wednesday well behind last year's record-setting pace and is on track to become one of the least successful of the eight hunts held under Gov. Chris Christie.

 

Another 56 bears were killed on Tuesday, bringing the two-day total to 82, the state Department of Environmental Protection said.

 

By comparison, during the first two days last year, hunters killed 306 bears -- including 206 on opening day. That was nearly half of the final total of 636, for a 12-day hunt that concluded with a second, six-day season in December.

 

The two-day total this year is by far the lowest of the eight bear hunts held annually starting in 2010, during Christie's first year in office.

 

In 2013, hunters killed 132 bears in the first two days, en route to a record low final tally of 251.

 

Until Monday, when only 26 bears were killed, the previous lowest opening day total was 93 in 2013, according to DEP records.

 

 


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#2 Male OFFLINE   JHbowhunter

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Posted 10/11/17 - 04:32 PM

i can see numbers are down with my own eyes, year after year since hunt was brought back.  I would say they just about where they need to be - which should be few and far between. 

Weather always has some impact with any season/animal/harvest - but for sure the numbers have nearly been brought down and the fall hunt last year was a huge reason.   It was long overdue, and that should be the hunt they keep going forward, and maybe drop the 6-day firearm hunt - if anything is dropped. 


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#3 Male ONLINE   Lunatic

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Posted 10/11/17 - 04:36 PM

Deer numbers must be low as well for the same reason, weather. Did we have one deer down this week?



#4 Male OFFLINE   Rusty

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Posted 10/11/17 - 04:48 PM

i can see numbers are down with my own eyes, year after year since hunt was brought back.  I would say they just about where they need to be - which should be few and far between. 

 

I agree 100%.  We have apple trees and 3 years ago we had bears in the yard everyday.  At one point we had 8 different bears in the yard munching on apples.  This year the apples are littering the ground untouched.  If we're lucky we have one bear sighting every 2 weeks.  



#5 Male ONLINE   Tarhunt

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Posted 10/11/17 - 04:52 PM

My friend worked at the Black River check station and he said that there were no bears checked in on Monday (I think).


"The Nation Which Forgets Its Defenders, Will Itself Be Forgotten".


#6 Male OFFLINE   themadgreek

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Posted 10/11/17 - 05:10 PM

I just had one come down my driveway 2 weeks ago. My clubs property is littered with them. Mainly due to nobody but me hunting them
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Posted 10/11/17 - 05:11 PM

There are too many still but we are going in the right direction
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Posted 10/11/17 - 05:17 PM

Maybe this warm weather slows down movement.

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Posted 10/11/17 - 05:26 PM

They should swap the 6 day December hunt out for a 3 day spring bowhunt :)

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#10 Male OFFLINE   Livesintrees

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Posted 10/11/17 - 05:30 PM

They should allow you to buy one bear tag. And use it when you want. Means the antis don’t have a set time to protest. And bringing a lottery system back while the numbers are in check keeps it going in some capacity
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#11 Male OFFLINE   Mixbaghunter

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Posted 10/11/17 - 05:31 PM

I think weather and the moon when out was close to full. Less guys are bear hunting once they shot one last year with a bow they where done . If we keep the bear hunt there will only a core group of people who hunt bear . The cost and time of baiting is a factor as well .

#12 Male OFFLINE   3 Blade

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Posted 10/11/17 - 05:38 PM

I would love to see them get rid of these short seasons and allow you to buy a tag that is good for the entire hunting season. It's sucks having to take time off of work only to have the weather screw you on those days.

 

We have one minor problem though-MURPHY!


Edited by 3 Blade, 10/11/17 - 05:39 PM.

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#13 OFFLINE   jerseyhunter

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Posted 10/11/17 - 05:45 PM

 

Maybe this warm weather slows down movement.

I know I wouldn't move much with a winter coat on, same as deer on those hot days. But they got to eat and you can't fight mother nature.



#14 Male OFFLINE   Gobblengrunt

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Posted 10/11/17 - 06:12 PM

There has been a surplus of natural foods for the bears this year. Baited sites are not thier primary food source. Because of these factors, bears have been very hit or miss on baits. I have observed (on 8 bait sites) plenty of different bears on each site are only coming in for a quick bite then moving off to eat natural foods (mostly acorns). My bears are always in the immediate area of my baits everyday but "on" the baits every few days. I guided a friend Tuesday and seen 6 bears before she shot hers. Not one bear was eating my bait. Plus, 80 plus degrees, a winter coat, and a layer of fat will damper movement!

#15 Male OFFLINE   smoking gun

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Posted 10/11/17 - 07:28 PM

They should let us run them with dogs
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#16 Male OFFLINE   Mixbaghunter

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Posted 10/11/17 - 08:08 PM

The bear group would love that. I can here them already.

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Posted 10/11/17 - 08:15 PM

I just had one come down my driveway 2 weeks ago. My clubs property is littered with them. Mainly due to nobody but me hunting them


Guys I know don’t hunt bear any more because of the effort dragging it out of woods and the cost of butchering and taxidermy...

#18 Male OFFLINE   Buck154

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Posted 10/12/17 - 06:27 AM

Numbers are low but there are still good amount out there



#19 Male OFFLINE   mazzgolf

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Posted 10/12/17 - 06:35 AM

The bear group would love that. I can here them already.

 

The dishonest bear groups already spread the lie that NJ bear hunt allows to run them with dogs - even though it is explicitly mentioned as illegal in the Digest (see page 52 of the 2017 digest for those reading this and don't believe me).

 

One thing I've learned listening to them and seeing their website, they lie consistently - from the fact "no one in the written history of New Jersey has ever been killed or seriously injured by a black bear" (yes, their website STILL claims this) to the fact that NJ allows bear hunters to run dogs when it is clearly illegal and advertised as such in the NJ hunting digest published for all to see.. They have to lie to make their position more palatable and try to get the non-hunters on their side, because the truth hurts their position.



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Posted 10/12/17 - 06:51 AM

I think almost half of the permits are still available. 






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