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Posted 09/28/17 - 09:39 AM
From 55K to 45K is a lot! My dog passed this year, and I was like as not going to hunt birds on state land anymore due to the dismal stocking season last year, I mean, are they trying to ruin it?
Posted 09/28/17 - 09:43 AM
If you add up the total stocking numbers for the state
its a total of 45,090 birds
Posted 09/28/17 - 09:45 AM
Posted 09/28/17 - 09:46 AM
Posted 09/28/17 - 09:50 AM
Well the past few years they always have those "extra" birds towards the end of the season so this just maybe that same thing
Posted 09/28/17 - 09:50 AM
Either they really messed up the northern NJ numbers for stocked birds
Posted 09/28/17 - 09:55 AM
Posted 09/28/17 - 10:03 AM
You are spot on with that
Posted 09/28/17 - 10:03 AM
and I was contemplating by my first stamp in over 25 years this year, since my Lab is a pheasant hunting machine now.... hmmmmm
Posted 09/28/17 - 10:09 AM
Posted 09/28/17 - 10:41 AM
Last year Bucksandbows hunted on Thanksgiving and it was so slow where we hunted
only 1 point and we got that one bird. But the year before in one small area we had a bunch of birds
Posted 09/28/17 - 10:52 AM
I had to brave the last two stocking days to get any birds at all!! And the way guys were fighting over shot or missed birds was ridiculous! Got my two quick and got the heck out of there!
Posted 09/28/17 - 11:12 AM
Long time lurker, first time poster. This thread inspired me to create an account and chime in.
I'd like to just share my feelings on the stocking program. Last year I did notice what seemed like a significant drop off in the quality of the pheasant season. I know the reduction is directly tied to the allocation program, but I felt as thought they way the handled the stocking with the reduced number of birds was VERY poorly handled. My favorite pheasant hunting area, near Roy tract bridge in Flatbrook WMA went from an enjoyable area to hunt in 2015, to a dead, quite, bird less area in 2016.
This area when stocked at the old allocation numbers had lots of birds in the thick stuff that were around all week. I'm a young guy who has no problem trudging into the thickest of the thick to find birds and last year they were simply not there. Some Saturdays by 9AM you would not hear a shot all day. It was almost Erie. The sediment was shared by most of the hunters I passed by in that area.
Back to my point of on how I feel the stocking of the reduced number of birds was poorly handed... I feel they took the reduced numbers of birds, and just dump the majority "killing fields" up front, where the orange army lines up shoulder to shoulder, and the back fields and off the beaten path areas took the brunt of the reduction. I thought the point of the reallocation was to spread hunters out.. safety.. make it a more enjoyable experience.
If my feelings are correct, and they are taking the reduced number of birds per WMA and just dumping them all into the "killing fields" and the smaller and off the beaten path areas which used to receive birds are taking the brunt of the reduction.. well then this whole plan seems to be handled completely incorrectly... spread the birds out within the WMA. Stop feeding the hundred guys who was to take a 5 minute walk to the end of a field every morning and go home.. stock the birds for guys who want to actually upland bird hunt.
My 2 cents.. wonder if its shared. If not.. no hard feelings! I'm excited for the season and will be out there regaurdless
Posted 09/28/17 - 11:56 AM
Edited by GhostBear, 09/28/17 - 11:58 AM.
Posted 09/28/17 - 12:09 PM
Its a shame..
In reference to the increased number along the Delaware.. I made many attempts to try and find those birds. Never saw any notable increase in 2016 vs. 2015 and back. I'm curious if anyone has an opinion / input on the increased stocking numbers along the Delaware. Does anyone find birds there in any concentration? I wish the state provided more input as to where they are actually stocking the birds along the Delaware. I have laminated copies of all the stocked WMA's.. but both he north south and central areas are all rather expansive, and I have received first hand information that stocking occurs along areas in between those stretches which are technically "un stocked"
My opinion is it is a less than ideal area to stock birds in. Habitat along the Delaware I feel is less than ideal as compared to the WMA's such as flatbrook (I'm only referencing flatbrook as it is the area I am most knowlegable and experienced in).I've hunted the land along the Delaware many time, and it seems like birds scatter there and don't hold in stocking areas as well. I mean I've personally seen pheasants literally fly across the Delaware when they bump early.. enjoy PA
Posted 09/28/17 - 12:13 PM
Posted 09/28/17 - 12:21 PM
Welcome UplandHunter75. Last year's allocation changes were far more dramatic than I know I expected for those of us up north. And I absolutely noticed that all shots were taken right away in the killing fields and few shots heard by 8am on. But that is different than how many birds will be released this year and I haven't heard anything out of the norm yet in that area.
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Posted 09/28/17 - 12:48 PM
Thanks for the Welcome Bucksnbows.
I totally agree.. the changes up north due to the allocation program were much more dramatic and felt then I feel myself or anyone else would have expected. That being said, I wish the state would recognize that and at least speak to it. Release a statement of how the stocking will be handled going forward under the new allocation, at least address the fact the change was strongly felt but hunters in the region, give the states opinion as to whether or not they felt it was successful or not, will the be continuing on this path, are there planned deviations? Something.. anything...
A lot of questions I think should be answered... and especially considering the fact that the program is primarily funded via a hunter paid stamp you think they would at least provide some transparency and information (unless they have and I'm complexly naïve to it)
Posted 09/28/17 - 01:09 PM
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