Forest fire in chatsworth

[boomsox24]

It will be 3500 acres after total burn out. Will be the biggest forest fire since 2007 which one fire burnt over 10000 acres. 95 there was one that 17000 acres. But the old days of regular big fires in the pines are gone. The pine barren is a powder keg due to the suppression of fires for so long. They need to do bigger more frequent control burns.

[Zipper]

Smell the smoke in Toms River.

[Bones]

3700 so far

[Bucksnbows]

It will be 3500 acres after total burn out. Will be the biggest forest fire since 2007 which one fire burnt over 10000 acres. 95 there was one that 17000 acres. But the old days of regular big fires in the pines are gone. The pine barren is a powder keg due to the suppression of fires for so long. They need to do bigger more frequent control burns.

We can thank our tree-huggers for that. Then once a big fire breaks out, they look for scapegoats when it was their fighting against controlled burns that is the real cause.

 

 

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[1957Buck]

 Bucksnbows

IYO don't you think clear cutting and better forest management of tree harvesting would be a Better idea than Burning.

With NJ being so Populated why add the smoke from the burning to all the other pollutants sent into the air every day.

Yes, the forest regrowth after a Fire at times creates a new Habitat but that takes time while Cutting does it faster. 

I don't know if Scrub Pine has any market value but in Alaska, the Beatle killed Spruce some millions of acres of them are harvested for Chip Board The trees are cut sent to ports like Homer where they are sent thru chipper blown into ships --Sent to China and comes back as Chio and ShavBoards.

But NJ forest may not be big enough to create that industry Let alone pissing off the tree huggers.

So we are left with uncontrolled Forest Fires.    

Instead of the Hind site and Bitching what can and should be done?

[Haskell_Hunter]

 Bucksnbows

IYO don't you think clear cutting and better forest management of tree harvesting would be a Better idea than Burning.

With NJ being so Populated why add the smoke from the burning to all the other pollutants sent into the air every day.

Yes, the forest regrowth after a Fire at times creates a new Habitat but that takes time while Cutting does it faster. 

I don't know if Scrub Pine has any market value but in Alaska, the Beatle killed Spruce some millions of acres of them are harvested for Chip Board The trees are cut sent to ports like Homer where they are sent thru chipper blown into ships --Sent to China and comes back as Chio and ShavBoards.

But NJ forest may not be big enough to create that industry Let alone pissing off the tree huggers.

So we are left with uncontrolled Forest Fires.    

Instead of the Hind site and Bitching what can and should be done?

 

Controlled burns are very good for a forest.  There are some plants that depend on regular burns.  The ash that's generated is also good for the soil.  Lots of good reasons to burn.

[rocky]

The pinelands became the pinelands because of fires and will disappear as once known because of fire suppression. 

[Bucksnbows]

 Bucksnbows

IYO don't you think clear cutting and better forest management of tree harvesting would be a Better idea than Burning.

With NJ being so Populated why add the smoke from the burning to all the other pollutants sent into the air every day.

Yes, the forest regrowth after a Fire at times creates a new Habitat but that takes time while Cutting does it faster. 

I don't know if Scrub Pine has any market value but in Alaska, the Beatle killed Spruce some millions of acres of them are harvested for Chip Board The trees are cut sent to ports like Homer where they are sent thru chipper blown into ships --Sent to China and comes back as Chio and ShavBoards.

But NJ forest may not be big enough to create that industry Let alone pissing off the tree huggers.

So we are left with uncontrolled Forest Fires.    

Instead of the Hind site and Bitching what can and should be done?

 

 

Cutting doesn't remove all the accumulated pine needles on the forest ground which are the tinder along with small branches that have died and fallen to the ground.  Burning is a normal thing in the Pinelands, but we have to be careful around populated areas for obvious reasons.  NJ does do some controlled burns and mostly in the south, but not nearly enough.  That's a combination of staff and public resistance.  Fire is natural and while the tree huggers freak out and yell "global warming", the reality is fire often helps forests in their evolution.  Sometimes it helps to remember that we can't always control Mother Nature nearly as much as we think we can.  Lots of hard lessons learned and forgotten there over the centuries by mankind.  

 

NJ doesn't have the lands that can be cut to bring back any current commercial logging on any scale.  Our mills are all mostly boutique mills, not volume mills that crank out product.