Trump is hitting back hard!

[Batsto]

This is going to change the current dialogue.

Trump tweets!

Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!

[Stevo]

If they would leave the guy alone and let him do his job instead of having to defend himself on these BS accusations everyday we would be even farther ahead on his agenda which is "Make America Great Again".

 

Trump and his staff need to start ignoring these half wits. I do not need to hear the defense cause I know it's all BS. Right now as I type this there are soldiers in Yemen kicking Tally Ban ass under the orders of Trump. He is doing exactly what he promised and almost in the order he promised. Secure the Borders, repeal Obamacare, kick ISIS in the balls. All are being done right now as promised. If you have a problem with these things you should pack your bags and get out of Washington.

 

The Democratic Party had a good ride. They fooled a lot of people for a long time. But America has woken up and now sees what their true agenda is. Socialism. They are done and will never be the powerful party they once were. Good riddance.

[Batsto]

If they would leave the guy alone and let him do his job instead of having to defend himself on these BS accusations everyday we would be even farther ahead on his agenda which is "Make America Great Again".

 

Trump and his staff need to start ignoring these half wits. I do not need to hear the defense cause I know it's all BS. Right now as I type this there are soldiers in Yemen kicking Tally Ban ass under the orders of Trump. He is doing exactly what he promised and almost in the order he promised. Secure the Borders, repeal Obamacare, kick ISIS in the balls. All are being done right now as promised. If you have a problem with these things you should pack your bags and get out of Washington.

 

The Democratic Party had a good ride. They fooled a lot of people for a long time. But America has woken up and now sees what their true agenda is. Socialism. They are done and will never be the powerful party they once were. Good riddance.[/quote

 

 

Agree with you Stevo! But Trump has to destroy the demon in the room to move forward. You can see we are in preliminary stages of a civil war. In 1800s it was popularity sovereignty, fugitive slave laws, Missouri Compromise, Abolition Kansas-Nebraska Act and etc. Now we NSA spying, courts over ruling over the president, IRS Scandal on conservative groups, fast and furious coverup, Moslem brotherhood working with Obama, attacks on the Christian faith, illegal aliens and refugees have more protections and benefits than average Americans, deadly assaults on our police and on and on. Maybe we are in a civil war right now! The Trump Adminstration will be a bust if he doesn't totally discredit Obama and the democrats/progressive liberals, which are communist in disguise.

Edited March 4, 2017 by Batsto

[DV1]

If this is true, it should be big. I think it's true but I also think nothing will happen. In reality, Obama and those responsible should be indicted, and probably go to jail but, of course, that would be "racist", so it will never happen. The real scary part is half the people of this Country will still support him if this is proven beyond a reasonable doubt. That's the problem...half the country wants someone like him...even knowing all about who he is...running things. 

[TDietz]

Sometimes I think we only delayed a civil war by voting in Trump. Hillary, liberal anti-2A Supreme Court Justices, and there would have surely been another war on USA land in my lifetime. There's a lot to turn around, I hope and pray we can do it.

[Batsto]

If this is true, it should be big. I think it's true but I also think nothing will happen. In reality, Obama and those responsible should be indicted, and probably go to jail but, of course, that would be "racist", so it will never happen. The real scary part is half the people of this Country will still support him if this is proven beyond a reasonable doubt. That's the problem...half the country wants someone like him...even knowing all about who he is...running things.

 

They are talking possible indictment of Obama and staff as we post.

[Batsto]

Sometimes I think we only delayed a civil war by voting in Trump. Hillary, liberal anti-2A Supreme Court Justices, and there would have surely been another war on USA land in my lifetime. There's a lot to turn around, I hope and pray we can do it.

You are right on with the Supreme Court, but with Trump, buttons are being pushed. Riots and violence is right around the corner. Look at the JCC and Cemeteries issues. I am willing to bet that is being backed by progressive liberals and anti trump groups.

Edited March 4, 2017 by Batsto

[BothBarrels]

If this is true, doesn't that mean that the FISA court approved it?

 

Or, is this just Trump repeating what Mark Levin was screaming on his radio show? Remember, our president gets his facts from places like the National Enquirer.

 

Perhaps our president should try telling the truth at this point. This continuing cycle of denials, then revelations, then Trump claiming ignorance .... isn't helping his administration.

 

I voted for Trump, but with serious reservations about a man with so little integrity .... being Commander In Chief, and his attacks on the First Amendment.

 

I will not blindly follow any leader. I am an American. ​  

Edited March 4, 2017 by BothBarrels

[DV1]

If this is true, doesn't that mean that the FISA court approved it?

 

Or, is this just Trump repeating what Mark Levin was screaming on his radio show? Remember, our president gets his facts from places like the National Enquirer.

 

Perhaps our president should try telling the truth at this point. This continuing cycle of denials, then revelations, then Trump claiming ignorance .... isn't helping his administration.

 

I voted for Trump, but with serious reservations about a man with so little integrity .... being Commander In Chief, and his attacks on the First Amendment.

 

I will not blindly follow any leader. I am an American. ​  

 

Obama went to a FISA Court twice to get the warrant. They were denied the first time in July, there is a paper trail on that. the second attempt was in October and apparently, it was approved, but still waiting on the paper trail. And no, I didn't get this from a radio show, it's factual. What we need to know is how they presented it the second time to get approval. I would imagine they tailored it to the Court's denial the first time. Or, maybe there was actually some evidence of collusion. I doubt that because I think we would have seen that before now to prevent Trump from ever taking office, but it is a possibility. 

 

I believe the Obama Administration did this to try and link the Trump campaign to Russian operatives, either knowing or unwittingly. Probably presented as a "national security' matter but with the dual purpose of helping Clinton. As pointed out before, I don't think they got anything substantive or we would have known it before January 20th. What we are seeing now is the drip, drip drip of things that are being hyped to make it look like there is something to a story that has no teeth. 

 

I believe Trump does tell the truth, probably as much if not more than anyone else in DC. What he is guilty of is exaggeration or being vague and leaving what he says up to interpretation. What he is usually not guilty of is intentionally deceiving or using political double-speak to deceive people, like most others in DC. There is a big difference in people not getting the true picture because you didn't communicate clearly, and because you intentionally wanted them to think something different. Trump is guilty of the former, most of his opponents, including 90 percent of the media, are guilty of the latter.

[stratocaster]

If this is true, doesn't that mean that the FISA court approved it?

 

Or, is this just Trump repeating what Mark Levin was screaming on his radio show? Remember, our president gets his facts from places like the National Enquirer.

 

Perhaps our president should try telling the truth at this point. This continuing cycle of denials, then revelations, then Trump claiming ignorance .... isn't helping his administration.

 

I voted for Trump, but with serious reservations about a man with so little integrity .... being Commander In Chief, and his attacks on the First Amendment.

 

I will not blindly follow any leader. I am an American. ​  

If you are defining "integrity" as incorruptibility then he is the one with the most integrity because he can't be bought as Obama could be and Clinton was.

 

 You don't like him obviously, because he is his own man without having to ask anyone for money or favors, unlike every other politician.   Were you as critical about President Obama with his outright lies especially so regarding his AG who was held in contempt of congress, or his denial of the crimes committed by illegal aliens because it didn't fit the narrative of his administration?  Any/all of us who are citizens are American without the hyphen and should question any leader, but that is exactly the point.

 

 America should have a leader who wakes up everyday and thinks about America and Americans first and how to enhance their opportunities for success and advancement and question the motives of other countries and the "global agenda".  Obama was the direct opposite and had an agenda that questioned the motives of America and sought to tie us to a global view without America as the center of that order.   The constitution should be mandatory reading for everyone including all prospective citizens and not just the Bill of rights, the whole thing.  Only then will we have a true understanding of what America really stands for. 

[Batsto]

I think both posts above are on target, each show our division in our nation. I ask one question, where and when did this division begin? This is the hope and change Americans voted for in 2008. It all starts at the top gentlemen. Socialism v. Capitalism with a hell of a lot moral issues on the plate.

Edited March 4, 2017 by Batsto

[TDietz]

      Well said fellas!

 

Speaking of divided, I know I've grown older, crotchedyer, less tolerant of bs since 08, but, I don't remember despising, to the point of hatred, of other Americans before then. It's amazing how much damage has been inflicted.

[1563621]

If Trump has rock solid proof, If obummer has been interfering with Trump's presidency, and can be proven. There could be a charge of sedition brought against obummer.

[_X7]

There is a strong undercurrent of deceit at play. There is a reason the Dems want Jeff Sessions out as AG and want to castrate Trump of power. They are most fearful of being held to the fire and made accountable for their corruption in the past 8 years. So now they are throwing whatever they can and hope that something sticks. I don't think Donald Trump is naive enough to make such a claim without anything to back him up. 

[JHbowhunter]

The dems and MSM finally got him. I don't know how he gets out of this one.