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Shot two nice Toms yesterday afternoon and then, this morning. Both birds walked in silently to pick a fight with a Pretty Boy strutting decoy 25 yards in front of me.

I’ve been meaning to try it one day

OG 391. First extrema.

Mossberg 835. 3.5” Winchester LongBeard #5’s.

Do you fly fish?

I think 25. I just paid 30 for some of the best I’ve seen not from there

Jaxson is in! Good luck this season!

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I need to mentally prepare myself for the financial beat-down I'm about to receive.

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I took the shot 5 yards from stand straight down bwtween shoulders (super thick stuff). See pic. Those other 2 pics were of were old wounds maybe a month old?. My arrow cut edge of spine and plunged into heart lung but when i butchered the deer the exit fron cross section was mid body and the broken ribs looked below spine and lung was gel i dont think from my arrow. I documented becuase i could not believe it.

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Jaxson 13

A Thomas & Thomas Two Handed Spey Rod marked [ DH12/2-3 12’/#12 line ] with a tube. Which translates to a 12 foot spey rod, 2 handed, 3 piece, for 12 weight lines. A Stream Line #4 reel with a spare spool both of which have backing in double case. A Loop Adapted Double Handed Fly Lines kit with carrying cases All are in like new condition and were used maybe 6 times many years ago and well maintained. I have a strap vest with many flies and accessories I will also include. Asking $600 pick up near 6 Flags or can possibly meet. Thanks for looking, Bob

Hope things continue to improve for you.

That IS where they hit, but they think that they went under the spine, leading to the belief that there is an empty space between the spine and the lungs. But there is no space between them, if you hit below the spine you are hitting lung. P.S. I’m not saying that is where Serpentine hit, I’m just responding to the Golf Man.

I would say entry was above the spine and exit sliced the top of the offside lung. Deer was surviving on one lung.

Let’s make minimum wage $50/hr and see what happens :-)

I always thought this is what people are talking about when mentioning "the void" (see red arrow) - basically over the spine... in this case, doesn't seem to hit anything thus hitting "a void" where there are no internal organs.

Congratulations on a beautiful buck

Bob, we welcome you back in all your decency and wisdom

All hail Hunter Bob! Welcome back, old timer

It is true deer and even some humans live with only one functional lung. If there is a hole made in the chest wall it will interfere with breathing by allowing air to accumulate in the chest cavity and collapse the lung. Air can also escape the lung and become trapped in the chest cavity and cause a tension pneumothorax. Making holes can cause bleeding or infection or the things listed above. There are a lot of large blood vessels in the chest and some run just bellow the spine. Therefore a broadhead bellow the spine would most likely cut or transect a blood vessel that would cause fatal bleeding. The void does not exist its just bad shot placement and wishful thinking. So many factors go into what a broad head will pass through, angle of shot, deer movement, etc. Keep in mind when a deer is dead, butchered, or gutted the lungs are deflated. Normally the lungs will be right up against the chest walls with no spaces even during exhalation. CT images of an animals chest would show this well. The diaphragm pulls down, ribs expand, the chest becomes a negative pressure space and air rushes in to fill the lungs. Holes in the chest wall interfere greatly with this process. See this post by Tater 12 with CT images of various animals. https://www.archerytalk.com/threads/deer-anatomy-101-no-mans-land.241902/ In the image bellow we have excellent anatomy and labels. This is of a dog. I cant find CT images of a whitetail deer immediately.

Do you even hunt anymore?? Thanks dude!

Below the spine you will hit lung. Deer can survive on one lung but the hole you show seems above spine. The spine does dip